Pink Rose tree Only blooms in Winter/ identify

catspawo6catspawo6 Posts: 13
edited 13 June in Plants
Hi all...... Here's a question I've yet to get an answer to.... Pink rose tree/ bush ONLY blooms in Winter months.. identify.
Will attach pics later if find any..backstory, South Wales UK, on moving home I inherited a well planted, established garden 20yrs ago. 2 rose trees, now only one left ,as a gardener before I could stop him copped one down thinking they were dead as not in summer bloom.
They have never bloomed any other time of year, only in very cold winter months, December & January, they grow big pink blooms, there's hardly been a year I've not had roses on Christmas day & new year, regardless of snow, rain, in fact the colder it is the more roses the tree produces.
In 20 yrs I can honestly say I've feed with bonemeal & manure & pruned no more than six times, in fact I neglected them.
Now with the one left, I recently took a good look and decided to lightly prune, and soon will be digging around to feed liquid horse manure & sprinkle bonemeal as previously done.
I noticed it has become fairly Woody lower down on some branches & appeared to be a bit lose in the ground so I've tied it up as are having strong winds this week.
The one that was mistakenly copped down to ground level never regrew.
I'm desperately hoping to identify this rose or gain some insight as to why it only blooms during a very cold spell, is it a certain variety, (as so far I've not been able to find out via the net or books)... Or is it,, it has a genetic kink!?!.. remember not once in 20yrs has it bloomed outside of winter months.
Thanks in advance.
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 55,538
    Looking forward to seeing the photos 😊 
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 2,414
    ..I don't see anything to identify.. other than your 'pink rose' is a Camellia... 
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 158
    Yes must be a Camellia.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 55,538
    Marlorena said:
    ..I don't see anything to identify.. other than your 'pink rose' is a Camellia... 
    That was my thought too ... either that or a Chaenomales japonica that’s been mistaken for a species rose. 

    Ma had a HT rose that almost always had buds at Christmas and she would pick them
    a few days before Christmas and bring them indoors and they’d make a little posy for the dinner table on the big day ... we thought it was ‘Peace’ .... but it flowered in the summer too. 
    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • catspawo6catspawo6 Posts: 13
    edited 13 June
    Hehe @ camellia thats funny.... The one I have is bright red and has now dropped all it's blooms for the year. .... Anyhows back my special pink Xmas rose ....

    Have just the now taken photos,,, photos of when in bloom during December, January..I will have to search for as it was captured whilst taking people pics..
    (And strangly today ,,.. is the first time I've seen a pink bud )
    The brown stuff around it is coconut husk, I dumped it there for convince, using to mix with potting soil...... 
    Any ideas what the green leafed plant growing up around the rose tree base is?.

    PS I don't cut when in bloom, I did once cut a couple & they died quickly indoors & it spoiled the look of the tree....... 
    Crazy to think it's been sat there 20plus yrs doing it's own thing.


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 55,538
    edited 13 June
    Well yes, that’s definitely a rose 🌹

    Lets hope the bud opens nicely and maybe @Marlorena will have a suggestion


    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 17,506
    Needs a lot of TLC!   Remove all the dead wood and withered stalks and hips back to good new wood.   Weed à 60cm circle around the base so it has no competition from grass and weeds and then mulch with well-rotted garden compost or, better still, horse manure.

    Keep it pruned and fed every spring and it should put on some healthy growth this year and in subsequent years and start producing blooms at the normal time.  Don't let it waste energy making hips.  dead head spen flowers.

    There are guides to pruning roses on the RHS website - https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=176  Scroll down and follow the appropriate links.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 158
    My guess is it’s a hybrid tea, and my advice would be to cut out any dead growth, and in the winter, cut down to within a foot of the ground.  
  • RubytooRubytoo On the sofa, Southerly aspect.Posts: 1,185
    edited 13 June
    The shape of the hips may also help identify it, roses have all different shapes, so another shot from another angle for posterity before you cut or dispose of in case it helps. And can you say what colour they are before they get very old and wrinkley.
    I know many roses have dark red "normal" hips. But some are black or vary in between, so shape, size and colour might help.

    We sometimes get a rose or two in bloom late in the year. Notably one called Summertime in winter a few years back.

    It was in a position of shelter which stayed relatively warm in winter and got sun.
    Maybe you have a micro climate within your garden there which suits that particular rose and causes it to flower regularly.

    Edit. When you mulch and feed as Obelixx has advised, do leave a little space immediately around the stems, as food/mulch might burn or damage any new stems coming up.
    And sorry I missed the middle picture you already took of hips good angle sorry.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 2,414
    ..nice Camellia, I always wanted one like that..

    Otherwise... It's not unusual for roses to produce the odd bloom in winter...
    When you are able to get a decent picture of the rose, in flower showing the whole bloom, I might be able to identify it for you... until then... 
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