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Plant list for new border..

Hi there, 

Please can you offer me some advice! Sorry for the long message

I am a bit concerned that i have too many plants in my list that I want to buy for a new border that I am creating.

The border west facing, sheltered and towards the back of the garden where it reaches the corner of my shed. It is L-shaped but the longest side is 5.4m long and 1.5m wide. I have a couple of picture which are below.

I am thinking about putting in some a hosta, ferns, actea purpea simplex in the back dark wet corner, then graduating the plants towards something where they appreciate partial shade, where i have alchemillia mollis, sanguisorba alba, astrantia, digitalis, asilbe 'look at me'. I also have some ground cover viola and gernaniums...

I am concerned i have listed too many and they wont all fit.... and that i don't have enough height (i really want to try and cover the horrible neighbors metal wall). I like the feeling of being enclosed in plants..

1. White ditigalis x 3

2. Actea Purpea Simple x 1

3. Hosta Sieboldnan x 1

4. Astrantia Major stardust x 3

5. Mattuccia Struthioperis x 2

6. Woodwardia Vingimenta x 1

7. Asplenium Solopendrium x 1

8. White Gernanium for partial shade x 1

9. Alchemilla Mollis (ladys mantle) x 3

10. Viola labradorica purpurea x 3

11. Sanguisorba alba x 3

12. Astilbe Look at me x 3

13. CAREX dolichostachya 'Kaga-nishiki x 3



Still need to take out all turf on the left hand side to create the border. I also need to move the hyrdrangea that is there.




  • pokhimpokhim Posts: 210

    Garden looks a bit grim right now!! But I am hoping this season it will look amazing!.. 

    Of course i could be naughty and cut away lots more turf to make the border 2m wide instead.. 

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,578

    I think you'll find you need more than one Hosta. image

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 14,378

    A lot of white plants against an almost white background, not sure how that will work.

    A bit more height might be better. How about some trellis, with a climber?

    IMO 2m. wide  with 5.4m. long, would be much better proportions than 5 X 1. It would also allow a more tiered planting scheme.

    remember you are highly unlikely to get it right first time, I change most of my borders, most years and I am not expecting to finish any time soon.

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,578

    If it was my garden, I'd lose the grass altogether.No need to mow it, nor own / store a lawn mower.

    But others will strongly disagree.

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 14,378

    Disagree with you Hosta, surely not!

    I think you might be right.

    Last edited: 10 February 2017 17:35:28

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • TopbirdTopbird Posts: 8,200

    Hi Pokhim

    If I remember correctly from your recent TV appearance you have quite a bit more garden on 'this' (ie on the house) side of the arch - so this isn't your only piece of garden? I hope that's right.

    I agree with the comments made above and would consider putting trellis in front of the metal wall to grow some more climbers. I think you already have roses etc so you can do more of those - perhaps repeating some combinations from elsewhere in the garden. Or you could think about evergreen climbers to permanently hide the wall - ivy and the star jasmine mentioned above might work - with a rose or clematis scrambling through.

    I also agree with the suggestion to do away with the small area of grass. You could lay a nice a wide path (perhaps at a jaunty angle or with a slight curve - depending on how that works with the rest of the garden) between the 2 slabbed areas.

    This would then give you 2 much wider borders which you could plant up with some shrubs for height and perhaps a small tree. This will give the feeling of enclosure you want.  If you include some evergreens you will have year round structure and interest. You could even include a bit of simple topiary - perhaps some bay tree lollipops staggered either side of the path.

    You can then use the plants you've listed for under and mid height planting. You have some nice plants in your list but be wary of dot planting (I make that mistake all the time....) - it nearly always looks better if you can plant big bold groups of fewer varieties. Do you have any successful planting combinations in the rest of the garden you could repeat in this area? Repeat planting around a garden often makes for a more harmonious effect.

    Last edited: 10 February 2017 18:37:43

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  • Mark56Mark56 Posts: 1,653

    Most importantly, what soil type do you have?

  • pokhimpokhim Posts: 210

    Thanks very much for this.

    As topbird said, this isn't the only section of the garden. But it is the one i want to focus on this summer... I am very happy with the other section. 

    Below is a photo of the garden in summer-16. I have since planted climbing roses and clematis on the left hand (west facing) fence leading up to the bench. I plan on putting some more clematis on the right hand (east facing). This will cover the walls in green! There are 200 bulbs scattered around which i'm waiting on!!

    I have 6 different buxus already which create some structure and a nice bay tree in the pot in the corner. 

    @topbird - there isn't much in the way of repeat planting which i'd like to continue through.. I have a good mixture of plants..image. Oh dear me!! @topbird, when you say dot planting, what do you mean? Do you think i have too many types of plant and i should stick to less?..

    @mark56 - the soil is clay. I will order bags of manure to dig in before i do anymore planting

    @lantana - i def thought about putting in a climber. His wall is metal!! ARGH!! So my other thought was putting in 2 x9 foot wooden posts and running wire across them and putting some climbers up them. What do you think? Better than a trellis against the metal wall and it means i can give it some breathing room for circulation.

    @aym - the section nearer to my shed gets v.little sun (where i want to put my fern and hostas) but as it gets closer to the front (house side) of the garden there is progressively more and more sun. The bench area gets sun pretty much all day! And yes.. it can get in summer. 

    I can do away with the grass on the left hand side and continue the path in a straight line up to the shed. It means I'll have a 2m wide border which is 5.5m long. Which should be plenty!!...I like the idea of using more buxus to create some repetiton in the garden..

    The other thing I could do is get some golden bamboo and run it along the my neighbours wall. Homebase has some tall golden bamboo which will give an immediate and strong impact? Would this be good instead of a trellis... I could use the bamboo as a backdrop for all the other plants.. 

    Sorry long msg again!!.image

  • pokhimpokhim Posts: 210

    Hi Aym, I've only been here 1 summer.. and i did this all last summer.. I was on 'big dreams small spaces'.. Monty gave me....well not much help. All the help i got was from this forum and from a very kind lady at the garden centre who i am going to email once i have my shortlist...

    Do you think bamboo would be a good screen across my neighbours iron shed? 

    Or perhaps i could do what i said about throwing in some 9ft posts and running wires across.and put in some star jasmine. I have star jasmine already growing up 1 side of my arch with the other side a rose...

    I want something to look good tho.. not just do it for the sake of it. 

  • Interesting to hear that you didn't get a lot of help from Monty, that isn't how the show portrays it...

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