Rowan - which is best?

I want to replace an old dead Cherry Tree stump with a Rowan so that the birds can have the berries.  I don't want an enormous great tree, is there a more compact version?  Red berries are preferable.  We are on the South coast.

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  • If the soil's on the acid side, great, but they're pretty tolerant of most soil types. I'd go for ordinary sorbus aucuparia, common rowan. We had this discussion a few weeks back and the other varieties, although each pretty for foliage or berry colour, can't match the native species for reliability - hardiness and berry.  

    H-C 

  • We're on chalk down here. 

    Thanks for your response. image

  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 875
    Hortum-cretae says:

    If the soil's on the acid side, great, but they're pretty tolerant of most soil types. 

    See original post

     I find they are not very good on heavy clay; the roots don't like it that wet, IMO.

    Go for red berries which are preferred by birds.

  • I'm beginning to think I need something else - Rowan's can grow quite large and I just want something  that it quite compact.  More research needed!

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,091

    I think that would be wise. Not happiest on chalk.

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Leicestershire, UKPosts: 8,304

    There's a list of trees suited to chalk on this page which may help you in your research:

    http://www.frankpmatthews.com/advice/yourperfecttree/trees_for_chalk_soils

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 875
    The Bird Lady says:

    I'm beginning to think I need something else - Rowan's can grow quite large and I just want something  that it quite compact.  More research needed!

    See original post

     Rowan eventually get big but are actually fairly slow growing. What about a crab apple, not too big, maybe 5m x 4m and plenty of fruit for the birds.  If you are really really lucky you could even get Waxwings. Another possibility could be Amelanchier. 

  • MarlorenaMarlorena East AngliaPosts: 2,803

    If you still want a Rowan, you need look no further than Sorbus vilmorinii, as a very small tree for your purposes.   It will grow on chalk.   Despite the description here on this link, I didn't find it hard to grow.  I had it on clay, full sun on the south coast, where a silver birch had grown previously.   It will never outgrow its welcome or get in yours or anyone else's way...

    https://www.chewvalleytrees.co.uk/products/detail/sorbus-vilmorinii/1

  • BobtheGardener - Thanks for the link, very interesting. 

    Marlorena - Thank you very much for that - do the birds eat the berries?

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