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a1154a1154 Posts: 1,044

Ive decided whats missing from my life (or my garden) is lots and lots of heleniums. Id like several diiferent types, try for a drift affect. So id lije to get plants and plugs and seeds if i can, get lots going.

Id like some oranges and some reds, not bothered for yellows, and ones that dont need staking as im lazy.

im ok buying plants and there looks to be a good online shop for them. Ive never seem them offered as plugs though. 

reading online it says they are easy from seed, but i cant find any seed. I went to a large GC today, they have all the new seeds in, several different makes - no helenium.  Am i missing something here? If they are easy, why arent they available? 



  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 26,982

    Chiltern Seeds have heleniums, they're easy from seed but if you want those oranges and the shorter ones you need to buy plants you like and divide them. 

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Bright starBright star Posts: 1,129

    I got some from Mr Fothergills, I think they have offers on at the moment

    Life's tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late.

  • a1154a1154 Posts: 1,044

    Ah so they do, thanks.  Ill try some from seed and buy plants too. Some of them look really stunning. They dont seem very popular, are they considered old fashioned maybe? 

  • Moerheim Beauty is one of the best. I grew some from seed, supposed to be Autumn Tints, all were yellow when they flowered, and tall. Named cultivars are best in my opinion.

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,404

    A good red is 'Rubinzwerg' if you can find it.  It doesn't need staking.


    East Anglia, England
  • Bright starBright star Posts: 1,129

    I've love Heleniums, having only just discovered them. I have  moerrheim beauty, Mardi Gras, autumnal, and a yellow one I can't remember the name of. Looks like I'll be adding rubinzwerg  to the collection too!

    Last edited: 13 January 2017 22:10:26

    Life's tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late.

  • a1154a1154 Posts: 1,044

    Agreed, that photo is lovely Marlorena. Where did you buy yours bright star?

  • AngieRAngieR Posts: 347

    Ruby Tuesday is another nice shorter red one. If you are buying plants and want to divide, spring is the time to do it for greater success. I found this site very helpful in the past.

  • Bright starBright star Posts: 1,129

    I got the moerheim beauty from Sarah Ravens website along with some purple salvias as part of a collection, they will look stunning when planted together, they came in 9 cm pots and very well packaged. I got some from B&Q in the reduced section, one of which has only just stopped flowering and some seeds from mr Fothergills which I will be sowing in the spring. Thanks for the website info Angie.

    Life's tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late.

  • I bought several from specialperennial last year as 9cm plants.

    All did really well, the taller ones will take longer (in my opinion) to properly 'fit' but that's just due to other plants not being large enough to not make them look 'lonely'.

    I bought:



    Sahin's early flowerer

    Dunkle Pracht


    Combination here of orange and red - my favourites (longest flowering and size) were Waltraut and Sahin's.

    Photo here was Waltraut, with Dunkle Pracht the taller one behind in the middle not flowering yet.


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