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B3B3 Posts: 24,435

Why is it ok to plant a new rose next to an old rose , but you can't plant one where an old rose has been even if it didn't die of disease?

Can you pull out a healthy rose that has fallen out of favour and replace it with a new one without sprinkling that stuff on it?

In London. Keen but lazy.


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,738

    I would replenish the soil, adding lots of well rotted farmyard manure and fish blood and bone - then I would happily replace one rose with another - but I would also use mycorrhizal fungi when planting - it has been shown to result in better root growth and stronger healthier plants. 


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  • B3B3 Posts: 24,435

    I have a packet of that MF stuff somewhere, but bfb is out of the question unless I want the foxes to rearrange my garden!

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,738

    Ah!  Then some good general purpose slow release fertiliser - Growmore pellets maybe?

    Does anyone else have another suggestion?

    Last edited: 07 January 2017 10:36:54

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  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    B3, rose's are what's called ' gross feeders'. They can quickly deplete surrounding soil of nutrients and essential minerals, hence the term ' rose sick' soil. That's why feeding regime's are important for rose's. Personally I wouldn't use growmore but use fish bone and blood added to the planting hole. You can lay some chicken wire around the base to stop the foxes digging it up.

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 20,930

    I usually dig out a barrow load of soil and swap it with a barrowload from the veg garden when planting a new rose where an old one has been, then dig in organic rose fertilizer and manure.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • B3B3 Posts: 24,435

    That makes sense, Dave. I thought that maybe they contaminated the soil in some way. 

    Good idea busy. I will instruct the undergardenerimage

    I'll chuck something non-organic in the hole dove.

    In London. Keen but lazy.
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