Rose Arch

Is it possible to train a climbing rose (New Dawn specifically) into a free standing arch ? Much like an apple arch/tunnel? Perhaps a better question would be how old can a rose cane get before it stops producing flowering buds? If you trained a main frame (eg an arch), could you keep deadheading/cutting back to the old frame? Or would it stop flowering? Hope this makes sense to someone on here

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  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 1,988

    Where I grew up as a child we had a New Dawn trained over a rustic arch. By the time we moved the arch had almost disintegrated and it was more a case of the rose holding it up than vice versaimage

  • M FentM Fent Posts: 166

    Sounds exactly like i imagined. wood doesnt last forever and those cheap metal tube arches are worthless, hence the idea of a self supporting arch. thanks for the push buttercup (i keep toying with the idea but then get put off incase ... xyz. Heres hoping !!)

  • Pete8Pete8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 3,167

    Sounds lovely - I've got a New Dawn on a fence.
    No reason why you can't train it over an arch - you'll need 1 either side. Just a matter of keeping on top of the pruning a couple of times a year. 

    A wide-ish arch is a good idea with roses if possible, to keep away from the prickles

  • M FentM Fent Posts: 166

    Initially i would put up a wooden arch way to train it to but eventually the Wood will rot away, im hoping that the rose would, by then, support it self and be free standing

  • Pete8Pete8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 3,167

    I done exactly that with a star jasmine.

    It works fine, but there are bits of the old frame entangled here and there.

  • M FentM Fent Posts: 166

    Thanks pete :) time to get planting

  • Pete8Pete8 Billericay, EssexPosts: 3,167

    Go for it! It'll look cracking - just keep on top of the pruning.

    I can see it already - 

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  • M FentM Fent Posts: 166

    One can dream image

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 45,062

    Don't want to be a pessimist ... but I don't think a climbing rose will ever be self-supporting enough to form an arch without support ... however, you may prove me wrong image

    If you stop taking chances, you'll stay where you sit. You won't live any longer, but it'll feel like it.” 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 45,062
    If you stop taking chances, you'll stay where you sit. You won't live any longer, but it'll feel like it.” 
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