Just bought a new metal arch, 2.4m high and would love to grow a scented, peach/ apricot or white colour climbing rose, any suggestions....david austin has one called crown princess margareta?
I will suggest these two, although there are many out there and I've not grown either of these, but they would be my choices from recommendations.
Instead of 'CPM', which is a fine rose by all accounts, I would go for 'Bathsheba', which is a similar colour but has the advantage of being low in thorns, according to Austin's. That's always a bonus for me. It's also a new variety, so something not everyone would have as yet.
Second, would be 'Sombreuil'... a white climbing rose with a rich scent and old fashioned blooms. It flowers all summer and is vigorous enough to cover your arch. It's canes are pliable and easy to train as well. You may see it listed as a Tea rose from 1850, which is incorrect. It's a 20th Century climber introduced circa 1950.
Oh thanks M i'll have a look at both of those, they sound lovely, it is tricky when you have created a spot to fill, not to jump in without research and plant the first thing you see
Hi Loana, as my name suggests I am obsessed with roses and have bought 28 since we moved here 3and a half years ago!we have v small gardens front and back but I manage to shoe horn them in amongst mainly herbaceous perennials and a couple of shrubs.. I learnt to my cost, I wouldn't buy anything now until I'd seen and smelled it in the flesh!Despite that I'll say i like Mme Alfred Carriere, lovely white rose , good fragrance, it does get big though, mine is easily going to get a bit big for it's arch, though luckily it's near enough to the house to get some trellis up and it can cover half the back of the house too!
Wow rosemummy, that is amazing, you must send us some pics, i'm a bit like you with clematis, i have 15 and apart from 2 i planted them all this summer i will look up the one you suggest, thank you, like you say tried and tested. I bought a rambling rector this summer to grow up a very old scrawny apple tree, we only keep the tree as the little apple windalls feed the birds...the rector has put on rapid growth, i'm so excited to see it flower next year, any tips for helping it flower, feed? If so what with, i do have good garden compost which i can top mulch it with?
Loana, use a rose food in march or when it starts growing and again in June. You can use a foliage feed once a week in between. But not after June because the rose will make soft wood for the winter that won't be good for the winter.Use the compost to mulch after the first feed.
Hi Loana, I've got two Mme Alfred Carriere. It's a gorgeous rose and gives flowers over a long period. Neither have mine have shown any sign of disease, and they don't get any special treatment. I agree with Rosemummy, though - it is very vigorous, so I would advise you to train it carefully, tying the stems as near horizontal as possible, or twining round uprights, otherwise it will reach the top of your arch in two years and be waving around in the wind looking for somewhere to go! Would love to see photos in due course
Also have to say Mme Alfred Carriere, got mine bare root at the beginning of the year it's flowered amazingly and has such a beautiful fragrance! I have a few climbing and rambling roses with a cream and blue/pale purple theme - the Mme Alfred Carriere is my favourite out of the six others I have!
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How exciting for you, I love metal arches.
I will suggest these two, although there are many out there and I've not grown either of these, but they would be my choices from recommendations.
Instead of 'CPM', which is a fine rose by all accounts, I would go for 'Bathsheba', which is a similar colour but has the advantage of being low in thorns, according to Austin's. That's always a bonus for me. It's also a new variety, so something not everyone would have as yet.
Second, would be 'Sombreuil'... a white climbing rose with a rich scent and old fashioned blooms. It flowers all summer and is vigorous enough to cover your arch. It's canes are pliable and easy to train as well. You may see it listed as a Tea rose from 1850, which is incorrect. It's a 20th Century climber introduced circa 1950.
Oh thanks M i'll have a look at both of those, they sound lovely, it is tricky when you have created a spot to fill, not to jump in without research and plant the first thing you see
Hi Loana, as my name suggests I am obsessed with roses and have bought 28 since we moved here 3and a half years ago!we have v small gardens front and back but I manage to shoe horn them in amongst mainly herbaceous perennials and a couple of shrubs.. I learnt to my cost, I wouldn't buy anything now until I'd seen and smelled it in the flesh!Despite that I'll say i like Mme Alfred Carriere, lovely white rose , good fragrance, it does get big though, mine is easily going to get a bit big for it's arch, though luckily it's near enough to the house to get some trellis up and it can cover half the back of the house too!
Wow rosemummy, that is amazing, you must send us some pics, i'm a bit like you with clematis, i have 15 and apart from 2 i planted them all this summer
i will look up the one you suggest, thank you, like you say tried and tested. I bought a rambling rector this summer to grow up a very old scrawny apple tree, we only keep the tree as the little apple windalls feed the birds...the rector has put on rapid growth, i'm so excited to see it flower next year, any tips for helping it flower, feed? If so what with, i do have good garden compost which i can top mulch it with?
Loana, use a rose food in march or when it starts growing and again in June. You can use a foliage feed once a week in between. But not after June because the rose will make soft wood for the winter that won't be good for the winter.Use the compost to mulch after the first feed.
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Thank you logan, great advice. My friend popped round today and she was amazed at how much growth it had put on since june
Hi Loana, I've got two Mme Alfred Carriere. It's a gorgeous rose and gives flowers over a long period. Neither have mine have shown any sign of disease, and they don't get any special treatment. I agree with Rosemummy, though - it is very vigorous, so I would advise you to train it carefully, tying the stems as near horizontal as possible, or twining round uprights, otherwise it will reach the top of your arch in two years and be waving around in the wind looking for somewhere to go! Would love to see photos in due course
Also have to say Mme Alfred Carriere, got mine bare root at the beginning of the year it's flowered amazingly and has such a beautiful fragrance! I have a few climbing and rambling roses with a cream and blue/pale purple theme - the Mme Alfred Carriere is my favourite out of the six others I have!
I have Crown Princess Margareta, but she's still a baby and getting off to a slow start. I've seen her in other gardens, lovely.
I also have Mme Alfred C and I think, if she grows like mine, that she would be too big for your arch.
Have you tried "Classic Roses", a rose nursery started by Peter Beales? I've sorted some here.
https://www.classicroses.co.uk/roses/climbing-roses.html?pbr_flowering_period_string=588&pbr_height_range=573&pbr_rose_colour=12&pbr_rose_group=91&pbr_scent_strength=600_599
Thank you everyone, thank you buzylizzie, peter beales is near me, so i will check them out, thanks everyone