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iamtoiamto Posts: 111

If you put 4 inches of soil on top of an existing grass, will it kill most of the grass?

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  • I think so!

  • Yup! image

  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601

    I'm not so sure but even if it does kill the grass, it will make a very poor base for planting into. In the long run it would be much better to lift the grass and dig the soil well, adding compost and possibly a bit of B.F.and B. it will take more effort but pay you back for years.

  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 3,740

    When I need to extend an existing mixed border into my lawn, I use the so-called "lasagna method". See for example http://everydaygardener.com/the-lasagna-method-get-rid-of-weeds-and-sod-the-easy-way/

    The best time to do it is now (autumn), and you'll have to wait until late winter/early spring before digging in, so you'll have to be patient.image The first time I used that lasagna method, I did just that (waited 6 months) and the result was perfect. For my second attempt I laid out the lasagna and waited only 2 months, and the result was not so good.

    This autumn I have decided to do things correctly again and I will be patient. See some photos on my site at http://www.rezeau.org/wp-garden/en/september-small-jobs/

    You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,740

    In my experience there are weedsimage, and then there are WEEDS image

    I sincerely doubt whether the lasagna method will get rid of deep rooted creeping thistle, perennial stinging nettles, hedge bindweed, ground elder etc in six months, especially over the winter when these plants are more or less dormant anyway. 

    I'm sure it'll deal with chickweed, groundsel, plantains etc - but so would hand weeding and forking it over followed by an occasional sortie with a Dutch hoe to deal with seedlings. 

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  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 21,539

    AND IF YOUR GRASS INCLUDES THIS TYPE OF GRASS

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=283

    YOU WILL NEVER BE RID OF IT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH TOSSING AND TURNING YOU DO.

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    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 3,740

    @Dovefromabove,

    I guess you are right about weeds and grass. I can attest that the lasagna method works fine on a well-kept lawn (free of most of the nasty weeds you mention). image

    You are invited to a virtual visit of my garden (in English or in French).
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,740
    Papi Jo says:

    @Dovefromabove,

    ....  (free of most of the nasty weeds you mention). image


     Notice you said 'most' Papi Joimage  ... I haven't got any of those in my lawn image ... but I have got more achillea than I can shake a stick at image

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  • iamtoiamto Posts: 111
    Verdun says:

    iamto, yes it will for most of it but not all.  Eventually it will become a weedy patch

    I have done this over grass to reseed grass and it works well but not otherwise a good idea.

    what did you want to plant there instead?

    the recommendation when burying turf is to do so grass side down.  Grass side up can regrow.  

    See original post

     Ok, i will try to just put the soil on top as i dont have any patience and i am planning to have a hedge and a lot of spring bulbs in there, and i want flowers next year?

    It does not really matter if some of the grass will come back as long as it does not get a lawn.?

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