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Darren8Darren8 Posts: 46

Good morning.

Could anyone give me a bit of advice re whether this is a "sucker" on my climbing rose (Alberic Barbier) please?

The rose was planted this Spring & is doing really well but in the last month or so an incredibly long stem has started to grow.

I've done a bit of reading up on it & it seems to fit most of the criteria for suckers (different colour stem, long whippy shoot) but I'd appreciate a second opinion.

If it is a sucker, do I just snap it off?

Also, do I get rid of it now or wait until Spring?

As always, any help received is very much appreciated.

See below for pictures.



  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,979

    You can relax!  That's not a sucker!  image  That's a lovely healthy new shoot on a really healthy-looking  climbing rose - while it's still young and fairly flexible train it as near to the horizontal as you can.  That way it'll grow lots of side shoots which are the ones which will produce flowers.  It'll be a picture image

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,158

    Looks to me like a sucker coming from the graft union where the rose you wanted is joined to a more vigorous rootstock.    Best wait for some more expert opinions before removing it.

    Ideally, the graft union should be planted one or two inches below soil level to help discourage suckering.  Having said that, I rescued a Geoff Hamilton from the border where it was struggling last year and planted it in a big pot at the recommended depth and it is now suckering like mad.   None of my other roses does this.

    Suckers are best pulled off before they provide too much competition for nutrients and thus weaken the real plant.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Darren8Darren8 Posts: 46

    Thanks for the input, both of you!!!

    That's 1 for and 1 against....anymore for anymore?

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 13,743

    Does not look like a sucker to me, same leaves as main plant, although that is not definitive.

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Darren8Darren8 Posts: 46

    Punkdoc, that was one of the things I thought that didn't quite fit hence me saying "most of the criteria" - the leaves!!

    And there was me thinking gardening was supposed to be relaxing?

  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,234

    Who said that?

    Gardening is very stressful! I've just found a slug all snuggled up amongst the pellets on what used to be a tray of seedlings of something I didn't label so I don't know what his last meal was.

    I'm covered in cuts, scratches and bruises from tackling yet another bank of brambles and now I don't know what to put in my Winter containers!

    I'm in tatters me. image

    I'm on the rose side of the fence with doc. Not enough to label it as a sucker but it mght be sneaky! 

  • Darren8Darren8 Posts: 46

    Tell me about it!!!

    The cyber side of gardening is just as traumatic.

    I've not been able to do any work today due to this whole sucker / non sucker conundrum and that's without ploughing through my multitude of emails informing me of all the Spring bulbs that I'll probably buy, despite having hardly any room in my borders anymore...

    I dream of having scratches on my arms & dirt under my fingernails image

    Ps - Thanks for the opinion as well.

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,158

    OK - I've had a look with my sewing reading glasses (stronger) and I agree it's a proper shoot.   Tie it in as horizontally as possible and it should throw up lots of shorter flowering shoots next year.   

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Darren8Darren8 Posts: 46

    Thanks Obelixx - will do when I get home.

    To think I was (pinches fingers) *that* far off snapping it off this morning as well!

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