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Please can you help me identify a rose with sentimental value?

Hello,

My late mother had a rose that was grown as a cutting from her grandmothers rose garden. I am very new to gardening, but I have managed to grow several cuttings (luck > judgement).

It would be wonderful to know more about the rose. Especially if its a climber or not.

I think it might be a hybrid tea (?) Its the pink one in the pictures (the fully grown one is my mothers, the ones in pots are my cuttings). Im less interested in the peach coloured rose...but for a bonus point???

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Click the link for more pictures:

https://goo.gl/photos/iiumBVicu5cQf3SV7

Can anyone help?

Many thanks

Rob

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  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,234

    Hi Rob. It's difficult to ID roses as there are so many but as it's a very old rose I dug out my very old rose book and the closest I could find was "Ophelia". 

    30 petals

    yellow at base

    medium sized

    very fragrant

    medium green matt leaves

    moderately vigourous

    upright.

  • Thank you so much, I didn't know where to start! I did wonder if it was a bit to deep a pink colour for orphelia....but there are so many pinks!

  • IamweedyIamweedy Cheshire East. Posts: 1,364

    It's very pretty what ever it's called . I know the names of the ones in my garden but I still have the lables. I would have a very difficult job naming any other roses, the differences can be so subtle. 




    'You must have some bread with it me duck!'

  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 20,085

    YOU DON'T INDICATE YOUR AGE BUT YOU SAY THAT THE ORIGINAL PLANT WAS GROWING IN YOUR GREAT-GRANDMOTHER'S GARDEN.

    AROUND WHAT SORT OF EPOCH WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN? FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY CASE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE 1880s. THAT MIGHT NARROW DOWN YOUR SEARCH.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,234

    Great minds PF. My great granny was still around in the 60s so I only looked pre that. image

  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 20,085

    MY GG HAD NO GARDEN. SHE DIED AGED 35 IN A SHEFFIELD SLUM OF A SHATTERED PELVIS DURING CHILDBIRTH.

    THE GOOD OLD DAYS EH?

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,234

    My granny died at 29 from pre-eclampsia leaving my granda with three daughters to rear including my mum who was 18 months in 1938. The good old days indeed! image

    This'll cheer them all up. image

    Last edited: 03 August 2016 11:24:26

  • wakeshinewakeshine Posts: 967

    Hi Goldsmith_Robert - I needed to identify loads of old roses in my parents back and front gardens earlier this year. Am still in the process of doing this and have named most of them. Peter Beales Roses were very helpful. I went on their website and ordered a catalogue. Not only is it a beautiful catalogue with hundreds of photos of every rose under the sun - it categorises the roses by type, and then within that by height and colour. Every rose has a profile, and most have a photo. In the profile it gives a description of the bloom, fragrance, height, year of introduction and lots of other useful information.

    I have managed to identify a lot of roses by myself using this catalogue. I would recommend you order one, it arrives quite quick and you can narrow down your selections. The Peter Beales roses old website did actually used to have a more detailed search filter but they have now removed it so I find the catalogue a lot more helpful. You can go straight to the hybrid tea or floribunda section and attempt to find your roses......

  • Thank you all....im very grateful.

    Im not certain of timescales....im not even 100% sure it dates back as far as my great grandmother....it is possible that this could be a 'family fable'. I AM certain that it goes back as far as my grandmothers garden she painted a oil painting of her rose garden...and I'm in my early 40s...and my grandmother was born 1915...not sure that helps?

    Much appreciated. 

    Rob 

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