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Dan17Dan17 Posts: 4


Can anyone identify this shrub please? It was in several places in my garden here near the sea when I first moved here and I thought it was some sort of Buddleia Alternifolia due to its graceful arching habit. However I discovered long slender thorns on its branches the other day so that rules out Buddleia I assume.Some specimens of it have struggled on under trees here for years. I wonder if it's some sort of native?

Many thanks in advance for any help.




  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 23,814

    Could be Teucrium.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • Dan17Dan17 Posts: 4

    That was quick response, thanks Busy-Lizzie. I'm very glad to have a potential name for it as it had me stumped. I just now had a quick Google about Teucrium and see what you mean. And I see that apparently Teucrium can come in many varieties and sizes - I forgot to mention originally that my shrub is about 9 feet tall. I'm not sure how garden-worthy it is. Apart from its graceful habit I don't think it has much going for it ornamentally - the leaves are quite dull and the flowers pretty insignificant. I've been waiting for years for it to "do" something but since discovering the thorns I've been rather put off it. There are much nicer things it could make room for.

    Many thanks again.


  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    I love our Teucrium Fruticans, has simple flowers that attract wildlife, interesting colour, and it's evergreen.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,417

    But teucrium doesn't have thorns does it? and is evergreen and the flowers are a very distinctive shape,

    A few more photos showing shape of flowers and leaves would be good. 

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    It looks germander like in the photo.  Perhaps there are some thorny specimens?  Perhaps a pic of the thorns?

    From the description I'd imagine Berberis.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,417

    this plant has little 5 point star flowers. Google any teucrium and look at the shape of the flowers, very distinctive and nothing like the shrub shown.

    As Teucrium fruticans, which this plant resembles superficially, is evergreen and thornless I think we have to discard that as an ID.

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,417

    E. angustifolia, 4 petals, creamy yellow flowers, sorryimage

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,300

    I've just found a shrub called Lycium barbarum.  Never seen it to my knowledge but it looks a possibility...  

    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    You have a better eye than I!  That looks promising.  I discovered a few things along the way. 

    Nice write up here:

    The secret to eternal youth right there, sitting in the hedgerow.

    Last edited: 02 August 2016 10:48:01

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