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Lysimachia Clethroides

Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

I bought three of these at Great Dixter today for my white garden but I've never grown them before, it seems that they will grow anywhere but are a bit of a thug. Does anyone have any experience of these? The gardner at GD told me that if it gets out of hand they are easy to remove as the roots are very shallow. I hope this is true. There is plenty of room for it.

I also got three lovely sarcococca confusa for £6 each which is much cheaper than my own garden centre by about half for a large plant.

I thought the prices at Dixter were very reasonable.



  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,350

    they don't do very well in dry soil. mine got smaller and smaller and has now disappeared

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Mine are doing well in my clay soil, expanding gradually. I haven't tried removing them, but I will have to try before long!

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,832

    I bought 3 of these about 10 years ago, maybe more.   They expanded very happily in my fertile alkaline loam and have been split several times with plants given away or sold at charity sales or planted elsewhere in the garden to fill gaps.  It has coped with deep frosts down to -32C, heavy snows, torrential rains, a hailstone tornado and high sweltery summer days of +34C and everything in between.

    I love it as I have a big garden and room for it to spread and thread itself through other plants.   It's easy to lift and divide and I love the goose neck flowers which last ages. 

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    That sounds great, they said I need to keep them moist for at least a year until they are properly established so I'm going to plant with lots of moisture retaining granules.

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 23,086


    I have it too and it behaves as obelixx says. I dug in compost and manure when I planted it. It can be very hot and dry in summer in Dordogne, but I water the bed every week. Mine is in this bed.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,832

    Don't bother with the granules Lou.  They're not necessary as long as you water it well before and after planting and during any dry spells for its first summer.  After that it will look after itself.

    Good looking border Busy - great mix of plants.  I have echinops too, always buzzing with bees.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    Thanks, that border looks fab!

  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,350

    It's a plant I've always fancied Lou-a very attractive habit, though I really don't like the other loosestrifes. They make quite a big stand if they're happy. As I have clay soil and plenty of moisture, I think I might need a big space for it! image

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Joyce21Joyce21 Posts: 15,489

    Fairy, that's yet another plant I have in a pot!  It has been sitting behind an azalea for a few years now in the terraced part of the garden.

    SW Scotland
  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    I've just been down to the garden centre sale and appear to have acquired three white peonies for £14 - big ones and some other plants I can't spell the name of which are airy and delicate - also white three for a tenner.

    That big space is gradually getting filled :-)

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