Couple of ID's please!

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Have these 2 plants growing in a friends garden.First one is about 5ft tall and just about to bloom,it's probably a weed but looks nice! :-
Second one is probably in the raspberry family as the fruits are a bit like them.Has big leaves and flowers a couple of inches across:-
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Top one is Eupatorium purpureum (not a weed). Not sure about the bottom one but could it be a Tayberry or something similar?
Last edited: 20 July 2016 13:23:25
Looks like a Rubus.
R. odoratus maybe?
In the sticks near Peterborough
Thanks both of you!
Eupatorium purpureum and Rubus odorata
Last edited: 20 July 2016 13:47:41