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FlyfiferFlyfifer Posts: 167
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I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this rose, It would seem to be some kind of a rambler but i don't know if it is wild or a cultivated variety first photo is approx. seven foot high and the second ten foot. the main stems have very large sharp thorns. any help would be greatly appreciated.

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A close up of the flower

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  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 37,226

    Hi Flyfifer. That is an absolute beauty. It is a wild rose - probably one of the Rosa moyesii hybrids. I think it may be one called Eddie's Jewel. This will grow to 3m with one main flush of flowers with some later flowers. Definitely a keeper! Love it!

    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 37,226

    I should have said that 'Wild Roses' is one of the categories that cultivated roses fall into so it is not something just taken from the wild. It is their appearance that puts them into this category.

    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • FlyfiferFlyfifer Posts: 167

    Ladybird4  Thank you very much indeed for the id it has made my day,image I also think it is an absolute beauty and the name would fit as it shines like a jewel when the sun catches it.

  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 37,226

    Gorgeous! image

    Cacoethes: An irresistible urge to do something inadvisable
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,426

    I would question that identity.  Moyesii hybrids have different foliage to that one, and Eddie's Jewel is usually more red.

    I would suggest 'American Pillar'... see what you think... it's more often seen...

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rosa_American_Pillar_-_Giverny02.jpg

    East Anglia, England
  • FlyfiferFlyfifer Posts: 167

    Marlorena  thank you for the link i have had a look and agree that the leaves are closer to mine and the colour is very close eddie's jewel as you say is deeper in colour thanks again.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,350

    agree not moyesii but I thought American Pillar had its flowers more in clusters than flylifer's photo.



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • FlyfiferFlyfifer Posts: 167

    Hi nutcutlet  Thanks for the reply, more food for thought, this plant iding is not as easy as one might think.image will have another look at cluster habit. in daylight.

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,426

    ...yes you would normally see a greater cluster, but I was thinking this rose might not be in the best condition and it also seems to be growing in a lot of shade with the tree.

    ...the description given of large sharp thorns and the glossy foliage, still lead me to think it's this one.

    https://www.classicroses.co.uk/american-pillar-rambling-rose.html 

    East Anglia, England
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,350

    There are thousands to choose from. That's not one I know but I'm not a rose grower, just a few species roses here (moyesii, rubrifolia, rugosa and canina



    In the sticks near Peterborough
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