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Rose graft - what part of the Rose is this?


  • RubiRubi Posts: 131

    I've purchased 3 Rose shrubs which don't seem to be growing well. 

    I have been reading a lot of old threads on this forum and the consensus seems to be to bury the graft about two inches below soil. 

    Can someone please clarify what the graft is. Is this the big brown knobly bit just where the green stems stem from? 

    When I purchased these shrubs, the "graft" (as described above" was above soil, and I there planted it the same as they were in their original pots. 

    Please help. 

    P.S. I have tried uploading a picture but I can no longer upload pictures from my phone. 

    Here is another link. Not sure if it will work.

    Last edited: 09 June 2016 10:09:07

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,818

    Not working but yes, the graft is the knobbly bit where the decorative rose is grafted to a rootstock, usually a  rambler for vigour.   There are two schools of thought for planting.  The old one says leave the union above the soil and the newer one, as advocated by David Austin and others, is to bury it a couple of inches below the soil to protect if from frost and wind damage and allow the grafted plant to produce some of its own roots.  It's supposed to reduce suckering from the rootstock too.

    Be patient.   New roses can take a season or two to get going while they develop a decent root system so be patient.  Make sure they don't dry out in hot spells and give them some slow release rose or tomato fertiliser to encourage flower formation.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Ladybird4Ladybird4 Posts: 37,199

    Hi Rubi. I managed to see your pics by copying and pasting the link. The roses are still quite small aren't they? As long as the brown knobbly bit is below the soil you should be fine. I think going 2 inches deep on your roses is a no go as the shoots are very very close to the graft. Just below the soil as I said above.and the tips from obelixx are good too.

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  • RubiRubi Posts: 131

    Thanks to both of you for your replies. 

    I have replanted the rose. 

    I purchased this plant two months ago and it hasn't shown signs of any growth. 

    I originally had it in the ground, but dug it out and put it in a pot over the weekend. It is a patio rose, called Velvet Dream from B&Q.  

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,818

    Good idea.  I have taken to putting all my new roses in pots for their first year so they can grow new root systems without worrying about competition in the borders and have also rescued a few that were struggling and which are now doing well in pots.

    I'll plant them out again in the autumn or maybe protect them again over winter and plant them next spring.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
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