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climbing roses sucker/planting question

sanjy67sanjy67 Posts: 1,007

last year i planted 'crimson cascade' climbing roses. i did a lot of research as to whether i should plant the union joint above the soil or below, so as i read it, i planted them slightly below and this year both have sent up suckers, i'm presuming that is what they are, they are soft stemmed and some of the leaves are a bit different, no photo as i have already cut them off and binned them, so what should i do with them? dig them up and replant the union above ground or leave them and just cut off the suckers as they appear?

i have ordered two other climbing roses, both 'madame alfred carriere' should this one be above or below as i want to avoid the sucker issue again, have any of you any experience with either of these roses?

thanks in advance image


  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Sanjay they aren't suckers they're next year's flowering stems! When you bury a union it encourages dormant buds to emerge producing new stems and that especially applies to climbers. You have to let them grow until they are quite firm and green before tying them in to the support. If you try too early they snap as they're brittle. Keep the union buried and wait for more growth.

  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Oh and don't cut anything else!!!???!!

  • sanjy67sanjy67 Posts: 1,007

    hahahaha oops image oh bum oh well you live and learn, well not in my roses case image they were quite thick( about one of my thumbs in size & my thumbs aren't dainty) in comparison to the new growth above ground which looked like 'normal' new growth this year and they were more prickly it looked like, i shall step away from the choppers then image

    so should i plant the 'madame alfred carriere' the same with the union below ground too?

  • Dave MorganDave Morgan Posts: 3,123

    Oh yes. Mine is 20ft and covered in flowers right now, however get the support framework in place as soon as you plant it. They are very vigorous and can spread as wide as they are tall. Can't stress that enough.

  • sanjy67sanjy67 Posts: 1,007

    thanks dave image i think they are arriving tomorrow, a bit excited image

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