A Newt by Any Other Name

Hi, can anyone help identify these newts that insist on leaving the pond and roasting themselves in the greenhouse. I can't decide between Smooth and Palmate, possibly because they're dry as a bone. Many thanks. 

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  • TheSlothTheSloth Posts: 38

    imageimageI'm sorry I hate this new site lol. Pics may or may not appear. 

    Last edited: 17 May 2016 13:15:30

  • Rob LockwoodRob Lockwood Posts: 156

    Looked into this myself a few weeks ago Sloth, and as the bottom one has spots all the way up its throat, it's a Smooth/Common newt: palmates have unspotted throats.  I wanted to find out what ours wre, but haven't caught one yet! 

    Think the other obvious difference between the species is the crest, but as this only occurs when breeding (ie when they're in water) and only in the males, it may well be inconclusive for you!

    These were handy:

    http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/palmate_newt.asp

    http://www.froglife.org/amphibians-and-reptiles/palmate-newt/

    Hope helps!

  • TheSlothTheSloth Posts: 38

    Thank you Rob. I think it's the spots which threw me as they definitiely extend up the neck but the orange colour doesn't. I think I'm erring on the side of Common too, I mean, as a newt...where does ones throat end and body begin? 

  • Rob LockwoodRob Lockwood Posts: 156

    Ah, a question I've often asked myself when shaving(!).  Here's a pic of someone purporting to know the difference (a couple of page-downs)!

    https://rhydycreuau.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/the-amphibians-arrive/

  • OnopordumOnopordum Posts: 390

    Definitely a male Smooth Newt.

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