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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 16,526

    I favour  a points system for economic migrants. Those with skills we can use are welcome. Those without skills, especially English Language skills, not wanting to integrate but to create ghettos are not.

    Did you read about the  school in Glasgow  with no scottish born pupils.

    anyone think that a good idea.? Would you want your child to go there?

  • Hi Tetley, I've just watched it.  Certainly interesting but not remotely surprising. 

    We've all seen with what contempt the EU bods treat democracies.  They're there, it would seem, to feather their own nests, never mind the foolish tax-payer.

    It shouldn't be that difficult to become independent again as we're not in the Eurozone.  However, I do suspect the vote will be IN, as people tend fear change.

  • Invicta2Invicta2 Posts: 663

    The issue of whether to stay in the EU or leave is far more complex than just immigration, and in particular is about the organisation itself. To use politicians lingo "it is not fit for purpose" in 2016. The mind set is stuck in trhe 1950,s trying to avoid another 2nd world war instead of facing up to todays problems. It is run by people with elitist anti-democratic attitudes [remember Ireland being told to vote again and get it right] and it is noticeable that the Remain campaign have been calling in fellow elitist from around the world such as the  IMF to back them. Of course there are people in the UK who benefit from being in the EU but there are plenty who don't and Remain don't seem to acknowledge this. The EU is also corrupt and incompetent [ their handling of the refugee crisis in 2015 was a classic of how not to deal with a problem]. David Cameron told us he would be in favour of leaving if he did not get a good deal from the EU, anyone believe him now? He has not been trumpeting all the wonderful concessions he got has he, just scaremonging along with most of the Remain campaign leaders.  The remain campaign is very negative and you can see on this forum when the immigration issue was raised, the implication is that if you raise concerns about immigration you are racist in some way. The issue about immigration under EU auspices is simply the volume of migrants, all other points about the issue are red herrings and the EU singularly fail to show any ability to manage it .

  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,234

    I know little of politics but it seems to me that the predominance of views held here are right of centre, some further than others, and yet Mr Cameron is held in such disdain. Interesting how the perception of the Tory ethos has shifted over the years.

  • AWBAWB Posts: 421

    I was undecided until I read that Angela can veto David's wishes or suggestions,

    That is not a democracy. Who can blame any person wanting to come to a country that will benefit their family and allow them to have a better standard of living. There are too many natural born Britons who are lazy and do not appreciate what they have.

    The days of armed conflict are gone, on a global basis, the new war is about economics and trade.

    The large corporations have more power than many countries, the problems in the Middle East are a direct result of economic malpractice, how can the oil price fluctuate so wildly, it's manipulated.

    Of into the garden shortly, after Beechcroft, to relax and forget politics.

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