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turmericturmeric Posts: 822

Hello all, can anyone tell me what these two are.  I originally thought they were the same plant but at this time of year it's obvious that the leaves, and flower colour are different.  The second photo shows the back of the leaves as they're quite distinctive.  Both have formed a scruffy shrub approx 1m high. Many thanks jandh

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  • turmericturmeric Posts: 822

    Meant to say I thought they were Caryopteris but the flowers don't have the long stamens that Caryopteris has.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,567

    They looks like a teucrium flowers, probably T. fruticans. Are you sure they're not 2 cultivars of the same species

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,567

    No, not caryopteris, very different flowers and stems

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 822

    They could be 2 cultivars of the same species, they're growing as two separate shrubs.  The first one seems quite lax the longer the stems get, the second is ever so slightly more upright and the leaves and flowers are much darker.  They've both just started flowering if that helps.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,567

    There's nothing I can think of apart from teucrium that has flowers that shape and T fruticans is the only shrubby one I know.

     

  • turmericturmeric Posts: 822

    It isn't Teucrium as I think that's Germander and these two don't have any scent from the flowers or the leaves.  Don't let me down nut, I'm beginning to panic nowimage

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,567

    Don't panic. Not Teucrium germander, T.fruticans, a very different plant

    this one

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/74406/Azure-tree-germander/Details

    Take no notice of the RHS calling it tree germander, they should know better. The plants is called Teucrium fruticans.

     

  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,567

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  • turmericturmeric Posts: 822

    Just looked it up and you're right about the second one, it's definitely Teucrium fruticans, thanks Nut.  Still confused by the first though as I've searched all the Teucriums I could find online and none match.

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