Jeyes fluid

I have been told to use jeyes fluid to spray on the roots of roses any one here done that and what is the mix ratio so no to harm the plants .

Im using it to try and control black spot i have just sprayed the new buds with rose clear but want to make sure i protect from the ground up thanks Lester

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  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 14,741

    As you can see from this fact sheet, Jeyes fluid is a very toxic substance with many many warnings about its danger to life and health. It is closely related to creosote.

    http://www.e-hygienesystems.com/coshh/sheets/Jeyes%20Fluid.pdf

    It will kill anything which it touches, in any dilution, and does not decay on contact with soil. If you want to kill all living things in your flowerbed - worms, spiders, the lot - in addition to some blackspot spores Jeyes fluid is the way to go.

    I grow a lot of roses. I live in a rainy part of the country. The best way to keep blackspot at bay is to pick off affected leaves and burn them, pick up fallen leaves and burn them, keep the ground around the rose bushes hoed and crumbly so that the spores have less chance of boucing up off the soil during a rain storm and making sure that there is good ventilation around the plants.

    Jeyes fluid is a foul thing. Personally, I think it should be banned.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607

    I wouldn't use it on soil - far too harmful to beneficial organisms - but here's the information   http://www.gardenersworld.com/forum/problem-solving/jeyes-fluid-uses/79970.html

    Please take head of the warnings re toxicity, especially to cats.  The effects are truly horrendous.

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607
    pansyface wrote (see)

    As you can see from this fact sheet, Jeyes fluid is a very toxic substance with many many warnings about its danger to life and health. It is closely related to creosote.

    http://www.e-hygienesystems.com/coshh/sheets/Jeyes%20Fluid.pdf

    It will kill anything which it touches, in any dilution, and does not decay on contact with soil. If you want to kill all living things in your flowerbed - worms, spiders, the lot - in addition to some blackspot spores Jeyes fluid is the way to go.

    I grow a lot of roses. I live in a rainy part of the country. The best way to keep blackspot at bay is to pick off affected leaves and burn them, pick up fallen leaves and burn them, keep the ground around the rose bushes hoed and crumbly so that the spores have less chance of boucing up off the soil during a rain storm and making sure that there is good ventilation around the plants.

    Jeyes fluid is a foul thing. Personally, I think it should be banned.

    I agree image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • JIMMMYJIMMMY Posts: 240

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    Total rubbish, my dad has used it for years, in his aviary and to clean up after the cat and dog, and most of the birds die of old age, and the cat is a grey beard at the moment!

    It is safe in the hands of a normal person, only a fool would drink it, our enemies in the EC would ban water if they were able, as people actually drown in it!

    Ps we do use it on plants and to clean pot and trays as well!

    Jimmmy

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607

    Jimmy, he probably used DDT too, just as my mother and grandmother did in their gardens - that doesn't mean we should.

    As for cats, Steve the Gardening Vet wrote  ...

    Steve J wrote (see)

    It seems, like anti-freeze, to be both palatable and toxic to cats.

    And while aviary birds may not be adversely affected, the important micro-organisms in our soil are damaged by it's use.

    However, as it's not illegal to use it my post contains the information bulkerb asked for, as well as my views on its use. 

    In this household it's used to disinfect drains - and that's all.

     

     

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 14,741
    Brown's Lozenges, Wright's Pearl Ointment, Keyser's Pills, Mitchell's Pills, Ching's Worm Lozenges, Norton's Drops and Poor Man's Friend were all sold over the counter only 100 years ago as medicines. Vets used "blue ointment" to treat fly strike. They all contained mercury, a deadly substance which can kill, and did kill, unsuspecting people and their animals.



    Nobody in their right minds would sell or use mercury in this way these days and if they did they would be sent to prison.



    Just because something is sold and people can buy it and use it does not make it a good thing to buy and use. My grandfather bought and smoked cigarettes because in those days they were sold as being beneficial to health. He died of lung cancer.



    Applying Jeyes fluid to your garden is hardly the same thing as drinking it. The beneficial organisms in the soil are not given the choice of imbibing it when it is poured onto them.
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • CeresCeres Posts: 1,713

    Horrid stuff but smells great if you like the smell of fresh tarmac hanging around for a week or few.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 54,607

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    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • Lupin 1Lupin 1 Posts: 8,916

    I have only used it to clean the inside of my GH and image I could smell it for weeks. 

  • bulkerbbulkerb Posts: 260

    Wow some very powerful comments and now im not sure are there any other products out there that will contain black spot and the like.

    Thank you all lester

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