what are these trees pleeze?

The first of what will be several "what are these" posts from me, having just bought a house with a mature garden which seems to have been originally planned and planted with great care and knowledge, but hasn't been tended to beyond basic pruning for a few years. The plot is square with the house in one corner, so the "front" garden sort of joins onto the "back" garden via a bridge over a pond which curves around the corner of the house. The "front" garden seems to have a Japanese theme, with a lovely acer, a pond with a curving bridge and lots of local pebbles around it, and a bamboo, fatsia, hosta etc. So, any ideas of what is the big bare tree in the back of this picture please?

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p.s. the big tree/shrub in the foreground is going to go. I think it's a euonymous gone mad - it's higher than eyelevel from our bedroom window (i.e. approx 15ft high) and sprouting at the top image and has obviously ended up significantly bigger than was intended as it's completely blocking a path which is meant to go around it! If there are any suggestions other than euonymous let me know. But I reckon we'll be calling the tree surgeon to deal with it (it's about 6ft diameter so not really take-to-the-tip stuff image )

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  • XX Posts: 707

    The tree could be a tamarisk Thecatsmother.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,613

    Think the tree with whispy foliage might be a tamarisk http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plants/plant_finder/plant_pages/11330.shtml 

    No-one knows if you've done your housework, but everyone knows if you've done your gardening !
  • Thanks - that looks like it image. The estate agent guy who showed us round said it was "something Japanese like mimosa or something" so the Japanese thing must have been a bit of a red herring (though it does fit the architectural/structural mood). But also on reading up a bit more about it, looks like another example of good planning by the previous-but-one owner (an architect who redesigned the garden when he added to the house) - online stuff says it's a very thirsty plant (causing problems in the US) and our garden is at the bottom of a sloping field/farmland so anything which takes up lots of groundwater is definitely a good idea. He also installed a network of drainage pipes under the garden connected to a sump and a sump pump connected to the surface water drain. Clever man image

  • Hmm, that's a very good thought image,.....I will ponder and take note of the wind etc. But he did put a lovely slate path going around it which it has totally covered up, so he obviously didn't intend it to be quite so huge. There is an elder between the unnecessary blob and our bedroom window so we'd still have some protection, and it's north of the house and the prevailing is SouthWesterly so not the primary wind direction. But definitely another thing to take into consideration when removing things, so a big thank you for that image

  • KoalagirlKoalagirl Posts: 225

    I agree about the windbreak thing.  I live on a windy bit of the coast and tamarisks are a popular form of windbreak down here.  They look quite pretty when the pink bracts come out.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,613

    Doesn't look like a mimosa to me, but that's estate agents for you - well, some of them anyway.  Have you seen it flowering - tamarisks have pink flowers, mimosas have yellow ones - that'll sort it image

    No-one knows if you've done your housework, but everyone knows if you've done your gardening !
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 19,713

    Looks like Eleagnus- your 'blob' that is! You can prune it back. It may well be there as a windbreak so maybe cut it back rather than take it out and see what effect there is re the wind.image

  • Lion SLion S Posts: 263

    This big tree with the variegated leaves could also be a Holly. Ilex altaclerensis 'Golden King' ( which does sound odd for a female plant, lol!) has hardly any spines so could easily be confused with both Euonymus and Elaeagnus. Unfortunately it's too far away to be absolutely sure what it is. A close up might help.

  • Hmm, starting to look like an ilex...  This is a closer view of the leaves on the outside

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     This is a closeup of some of the leaves closer to the trunk (gone feral - not so variegated and with spiky edges image )

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     And upon close inspection, it has berries

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     So is ilex the consensus?

    I can't really prune it as there are only leaves on the outside, surrounding a network of bare branches, with the occasional feral spiky branch of course. It is huge - if I was to keep it I'd want it at most about 4ft high, not sure taking that amount off would be possible - I'd pretty much be left with only trunk..... image Must have taken a few years to get to this size and as I said it was not intended to, based on the paths and surrounding plants.  So, should it stay or should it go?

  • p.s. RHS page info says don't prune http://apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselector/plant?plantid=1024

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