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Bay tree dying - Newt?

I have had two bay trees for many months now and recently potted both of them because they looked like they were struggling. I repotted potted them with John innes no.2 and found that there was a newt at the bottom of one of the bays which I think is dying! I have got eracacious plafound and sea quest iron feed, and the leaves are stil going brown! Can the bay be saved? What might be causing it, could it be the newt?!

any suggestion welcome.

thank you



  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,424

    sounds bad for the bay. newts eat slugs, they're on your side. Just looking for a damp place to hide between meals.

    Bays don't need ericaceous compost and a sick plant doesn't need a lot of feeding. They take a bit of a bashing some winters and it's not too late for recovery. Are you getting any new growth at all?

    i'd put it somewhere out of any extreme weather - hot sun, heavy rain, strong wind. Don't let it dry out but it won't want to be wet. speak to it kindly and see what happens

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • artjakartjak Posts: 4,167

    ThunderB, you are not very far north, I am in Norfolk and have lost several Bays over the last few years, partly because of the cold, partly there is some fungas/disease that is attacking Bays so I have been told. My neighbours thought that they had lost a big Bay, but eventually it revived.

    I agree with nutcutlet, they do not need ericaaceous compost, in fact that may be stressing it. Give it some time and it may recover.image

  • John HardingJohn Harding Posts: 541

    A newt in the container would suggest it's too wet (newts like water) Bays don't like to be wet! They also suffer from the cold weather, particularly don't like frost. Artjak is right, conditions during past winter have been bad for bays and Ericacious is definitely wrong compost.

  • floreroflorero Posts: 21

    Agreed, wrong compost. Draining is vital, as has been pointed out and, having watched my brother's succumb to cold winters, I kept mine in a pot. That's a huge pot by now, with feet under it so it drains better and I bring it to the back door in winter. Down south I can do that but I'd wrap it up in winter to keep it warm if I lived in colder climes.Other than the odd brown leaf here n there it's been fine for 7 years or so.

  • So less water!


    I have attached two photos of the dying bay, any comments welcome.

    Do bays need ericacious food/compost at all?

    What is the best/good compost an plant food for them? Also should I bputting some gravel or bark into the compost to help drainage?

    And finally should the potsbee raised off the lawn?

    As you can probably tell I'm a complete beginner at gardening!





  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 87,904

    Ben, the pics haven't worked - can you click on the little tree in the toolbar above where you post - you'll find instructions thereimage

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,424

    No pics image

    Not ericaceous compost, something loam based with extra grit. It won't need a lot of feeding. I wouldn't stand it on the lawn, the lawn will get a bald patch and ants like to move up into pots standing directly on the ground

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 87,904

    And no - they don't need ericaceous anything.  

    Mine is potted in John Innes No 3 with some added grit.  And yes,  raise the pot up on feet so it drains well.  

    Pots are better on paving rather than on the lawn - pots on the lawn will damage the grass. 

    In the winter move the bay into the most sheltered corner where it still gets some sun - keep the pot raised up on feet and wrap it (the pot) in some bubble wrap.


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 87,904

    Snap Nut image

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

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