Munstead, Hidcote or ................?

I want to plant lavender in the beds either side of my garden seat on the patio.  It will be in front of David Austin climbing roses Wollerton Old Hall which will hopefully be pale apricot/cream in colour (only planted this winter).  Which variety would you recommend for colour and fragrance?  I would like the plants to soften the edges of the patio a bit without becoming too straggly or woody, but I haven't grown lavender before, so would welcome any suggestions.  Thank you!


  • LilylouiseLilylouise Posts: 1,014
    I would choose Hidcote image

    PamLL x
  • Good choice Pam. Munstead also good I think from memory.

    There's also a white variety Lily but not sure of the variety or if it's as 'flowery' as the usual ones. That's not much help is it ..sorry!

  • Sorry I wrote Lily when I meant hct...image

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,127

    I have blue Hidcote and white Edelwiess lavenders planted alon the top of a retaining wall where they get good drianage and full sun.  They are bothe hardy and flower well each year although the white is slightly longer stemed and flowers later.

    Both are pruned right back after flowering is over so are easy to keep compact and tidy though I have to say they look a bit sad after this winter.  No doubt they'll perk up though.  They usually do and are full of bees buzzing in summer and good perfume.

    The Vendée, France
  • BookertooBookertoo Posts: 1,306

    Lavender and roses - yummy - can we really believe that is going to happen?

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,127

    Forgot to add I also put some Munstead lavenders in my ros ebed to help keep off the aphids but they don't cope as well with our winters and I've recently had to remove two more corpses.  Two left but straggly.  i hope they'll be OK after some TLC but will always plant Hidcote in future.

    The Vendée, France
  • Gold1locksGold1locks Posts: 499

    After visiting Norfolk Lavender and seeing a long row of Imperial Gem in a field, alongside many other varieties,  I would always choose it for a low edging. The colour is so vivid. The fragrance is wonderful too, but I suspect that can be said for all the English lavenders.


  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,127

    That certainly is a vivid blue but I suspect I need an H5 hardiness rating for my grdaen, even in teh well drained bits.

    The Vendée, France
  • Thanks for the link Gold1locks.  It's helpful to see a photo.  Has any one got a photo of Munstead or Hidcote growing in their garden by any chance?

    Should I dig some horticultural grit into the ground before planting?

  • We have trouble up here with hardiness of lavenders too as it's cold, wet conditions they hate more than anything. They do like well drained soil so the more grit the better I'd say!image

  • Bookertoo, why shouldn't it happen?  image

  • Gold1locksGold1locks Posts: 499

    The RHS rates most of the English lavenders at H4 (a couple H3-H4), which means hardy throughout the UK, but not where you live, Obelixx.  maybe Munstead is H4 and a bit! 

    I mix grit / sharp sand 50:50 with my lavenders in pots, and give a similar ratio in the planting hole for the rest. I was amazed to find that all my pot grown blue/purple lavenders have survived last winter, despite the -10C we had on quite a few nights (except a silver leaved one called Sawyers  and a pink flowered one - forget the name, though I knew both of these were not as hardy as the rest)

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,127

    Hi Goldilocks, My Hidcotes and Edelweiss lavenders regularly come thorugh -20 to -25C but, as I said, they are in a very well drained spot and get whatever winter sun there is.    The Munstead has also been sheltered and well drained but heavier soil with more clay so if I do plant replacements, theer'll be some grit and compost going into the mix.   Lavenders are lovely plants to have and great for beneficial insects.

    The Vendée, France
  • I'm new to all this H thing!  I live in Harrogate, North Yorks, so which number H am I?!

  • Gold1locksGold1locks Posts: 499

    This should be helpful in explaining the RHS H1 to h4 ratings.

    For a better guide to hardiness in different areas of the UK, this alternative site might answer your question.

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,127

    Here is the updated RHS hardiness ratings info -

    Theyv'e been doing a rethink after tha hard winters of 2009 and 2010 and have come up with a system that includes the extremes of Britain's climates, some of which are similar to continental Europe.

    The Vendée, France
  • AscotChapAscotChap Posts: 1

    I have Imperial Gem too and think it beats both Munstead and Hidcote.

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