Greenhouse base bolted to a wall??

garjobo

In the desperate hope I'll get an answer..ideally from someone with a greenhouse.

Can I simply put/bolt a greenhouse + the base onto a small brick wall.

I've seen greenhouses, mine is yet to arrive, i know that..perhaps...the base may look..odd? fitted onto a brickwall..and perhaps best not use the base???? you tell me? But purely from the pov that the base may make it more secure...

What'd you all think? Those in the know...   Would it be ok to literally bolt the base onto a brick wall ( say 5  bricks high..double row ) and am i asking for trouble?

Aware of the problem with the sliding door...but worst case scenerio is I alter the slider..somehow.

Advice..photos? if anyone else has done it - with the base.

THANKS for any advice given.

artjak

We need to know the design of the greenhouse and a photo of the wall. Posibly send the forum a pic from the greenhouse brochure?

marshmello

Yes you can ! They're was a few gardener's at our allotments who had done the exact thing. However, when we had the strong storms, the greenhouses blow off.

I set mine into concrete with long nuts/bolts and big washers, when the mix was still wet. That is not going anywhere, I can tell ya.

Birdy13

Is the idea to get more headroom? If you haven't yet built the wall and you are going to dig proper footings for the wall I guess you could do it. With careful planning you might be able to set long roof ties between the two 'skins' of brickwork (which I presume is what you mean by 'double row') and, even better, rooted in the concrete footings if you can. The ties would have to be sited at each corner exactly positioned to allow bolting to each corner upright. This would achieve the same effect as setting long bolts in wet concrete. Each corner of my own 8'x6' lightweight greenhouse is only fixed to the ground by a bolted on 'foot type' structure set in a 6-8inch cube of concrete poured into the earth. It's been fine for more than twelve years without any other footings. Mines not on a wall though. Hope this helps. B13.

garjobo

Thank you for the repies. As for design of the greenhouse...its nothing special ( although had to pay extra for safety glass - kids! )...a standard 6ft x 10ft aluminum greenhouse with one slides door.

My main Question is, the BASE....shall i use the base..and secure it onto the brickwork. Or throw the base away kinda thing.

Aware of the sliding door problem...a fiddly thing to sort out nothing more hopefully.

Yes - wanted more height..and also this extra warmth thang..bricks maintaining a little warmth..and to be honest...the look of it. Always liked a greenhouse on bricks..although using a base..may take look away.

Any photos you have yourselves ? been checking on internet and surprisingly found little esp on youtube...thought there would be more How To guids on there. But nothing really.

I have a concreate base right now. All i was going to do was, get a load of bricks, only about 5 high, two rows ( will look at that sugestion of what to put between the walls )...and SIMPLY SECURE the BASE..and/or THE ALUMINUM FRAMWORK onto it with..RAW BOLTS - perhaps?

Just..im no builder..but happy to take time and a spirit level and give it a go..but i need to know if im making mistake doing it?

garjobo

BIRDY13 - reading again your reply ( and appreciate yours is not on a wall ) but any photos of how you secured yours? just hard to understand via reading it/imagining it. Keen to secure this properly.

figrat

Hi again! 

I do think you would be wise to use the base, as it does give the greenhouse more rigidity. And it has the fixing holes ready drilled for fixing to the ground/concrete/wall...

I don't think it would detract from the final appearance of the construction - indeed, I think that NOT using it would give you the added problem of how to attach the superstructure.

I've been poking round t'internet as well, and found nothing!

But there's this link (on this site) on general greenhouse construction.

http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/projects/garden-diy/how-to-build-a-greenhouse/3640.html

garjobo

THANKS for the advice, glad to read theres already holes in the base for concrete/brick.

YES..extra expence, and work..but i think worth it in the end..long term don't you.

Will look at that link ( when not in work! on lunchhour ) thanks.

Thanks Figrat for taking the trouble to poke around on site on my behalf.

Whilst im at it  - the brick layer was thinking about...simply..two brick layer..side by side...simple as that..and ideally secure the base/structure in the middle of the the brick. Again, im no bricklayer but hopefully its straightforward enough...i wonder if i need to put those 'ties'..between the wall....to hold wall together..

 

Once done...i will take photos..before it collaspes.

Ansellia

Hi I am plannig on doing the very same thing so I will be keen to see how your project goes.

I have a 6x8 aluminium green house that I would like more head height in as I hang my tumbling toms and orchids that summer outside. Also like my climbers and vines to have more room. 

I will be digging down about a foot and a half plus a but more for the wall footings. I am recycling old bricks from a garden wall so it depends how far they stretch as to how many courses high I go. The base inside will be considerably lower than ground level outside so it will be a step up and then a couple down. I will bolt it directly onto the wall.

All my dug out topsoil which was imported by a previous owner who raised the whole garden is going into a huge raised bed which I have just ordered the sleepers for. That will be where my veg is going right next to the green house.

Im going to be very busy as I do all the DIY ! 

 

garjobo

Thanks for keeping this topic alive..i am surprised that ive yet to see others greenhouse on bricks photos - am i the only one who wants to do this!!

Well, Ansellia - i dont want the step up and step down scenerio..quite how Im going to extend the door etc..i havent a clue...no doubt will part with a few extra pounds in order to get it right - usually the way!

Although a new member, once my greenhouse is up n running i no doubt will become a regular on here - asking the questions..for a start..what best to keep your greenhouse warm - cheapest option of course!

Once my greenhouse arrives, I will make a start and take photos of course. In my head I have it al planned in practice..not a clue. However, this weekend is a busy one - i have 27 shurbs to plant somewhere in my garden ( i got them for £2.50 a pop!! including an Acer ( looks dead admittely ). Always a good feeling getting plants at a fraction of the price. And even Homebase ( not the cheapest!! ) was handing out sand/pepples bags for only £1 a go!! bargin!! Now...to find cheap bricks!!

Birdy13

Sorry, can't photograph method of securing - it's all underground. Immaterial anyway as you say you have the concrete base already. But you might still be able to use roof ties between the two layers of brick. Suggest you visit builders merchant to see different designs available. They're usually just strips of mild steel, if I remember correctly, with holes to screw to a house roof (but you would not be doing that) with one end cemented into brickwork to prevent the roof being lifted or removed by high winds. Depending where you live you might find a metal merchant willing to cut strip metal to size for you - might even drill it for you too. (Or maybe such service is a thing of the past!) Worth looking through yellow pages or Internet. Building tip: re your outline for brickwork, you can check that any rectangle is square by shifting it around until the DIAGONALS are equal in length. Measure with any cord that doesn't stretch, two people needed, one at each end. Best of luck. B13