starting a new garden

the whole garden seems to be clay based, any suggestions?



  • Hi KevT ,could you perhaps give some more details as to the size of your garden


  • KevTKevT Posts: 3

    i'll try and get some photos on

  • Bunny ...Bunny ... Posts: 3,455
    What do you want suggestions with? Plants, how to help it?

    Although it can be hard work , clay has plenty plant friends image
  • joslowjoslow Posts: 219

    Horse Manure

  • You could always switch some area's with different soil/compost then grow a wide varieties of plants (you can get large amounts of compost for quite cheap from certain places, like



  • I live on the side of a hill where springs outcrop across the top. The soil is clay with pebbles, in short an absolute nightmare. I bought a 3' square piece of galvanised chicken wire, the sort that is very study and has 3/4" square holes in. Then I made a frame out of 2x2 baton that fitted my wheelbarrow, and proceeded to cut the wire to size and then stapled it to the frame to make a giant sieve. Everytime I sort a border I stick the whole lot to a depth of a foot or so through the sieve. This is how bad my soil is, it's like 40% rock that is 1" or bigger. I then mix in a hefty load of manure in the bottom, then mix the sifted soil with spent compost from my toms or other pots. (You can just mix in normal compost but tis expensive for a big garden!.

    If you have poor soil, realistically to get a good performance out of it, you need to put the effort in. My way is very hard work, but weeding/ planting etc is very easy, and I only have to mulch compost on top from now on. For my vegetables, I bought a load of second hand scaffold planks and made raised beds, then you can create the soil you wish.

    Remember, clay soil is one of the best as it retains moisture brilliantly, if you get plenty of organic matter into it, and use a good mulch, you'll only be watering half as much as your neighbours.

  • Mark56Mark56 Windsor, BerkshirePosts: 1,509

    As has been said, grit or sharp sand for drainage, horse manure/chicken pelleted manure/garden compost, even MPC compost for breaking down the clay somewhat. It will take time but year on year you will improve the consistency - try your local stables for free manure. Lots of plants will grow happily in clay.. hardy geraniums, roses, hydrangeas, plenty of shrubs do well here. 

    Last edited: 13 March 2017 14:51:09

  • WateryWatery Posts: 387

    Large swathes of the country are on clay soil, and yet things grow on it.   I noticed when I moved to my area that where the farmers turn oil the soil, the clay gets claggy and then hard if allowed to dry before things planted in it.  In the woods and fields left to pasture, the same soil is a lot less sticky because it has a overlying layer of organic material (leaf mould etc.) and only a problem where cows have churned it up.

    I put green waste compost on the top of my clay soil as a mulch/soil conditioner for the worms to work in.  I don't dig, unless I'm putting in a plant, and then I back fill with the clay soil and mulch on top.   I can grow most things.   Plants that specifically like sandy/dry soil probably won't do well, although you can have small areas like a rockery where you build in more drainage. 

    My mother-in-law has sandy soil and envies mine. 

    Be like nature and mulch on top; don't be like the cows and churn up the mud.

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 14,653

    My last garden was sand, this garden clay. Give me the clay any day. I'm not a slave to the hosepipe and it holds nutrients too, unlike sand.

  • WaysideWayside Posts: 460

    I was raised beside a clay garden and just assumed everyone had clay!  I didn't grow much back then, now have chalk, which is so different.  Biking besides farmers fields used to be a claggy nightmare!  And I love the way chalk doesn't become a mud fest.

    One observation was the length of time it took for trees to get going on the clay.  Well two at least.  They were stunted for years (a good decade and a half), and then finally took off.  Both in good aspects.  Could have been drought as they didn't get any attention (watering).  Perhaps they finally got their roots down low enough to drink.

    Last edited: 15 March 2017 09:03:16

Sign In or Register to comment.