Clematis nelly moser

Bunny ...Bunny ... Posts: 3,455
Always mix myself with to prune or not to prune, I have noticed new growth on old stems, should this one be cut back now or wait...or not at all? Same with Montana large purple flowers , flowing summer to late ? Would it be worth trying some nelly moser cuttings now I wonder also ? I had thought of moving to a pot as now hidden , but read not to image Thanks for help advice you can offer .
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  • Matty2Matty2 Posts: 4,820

    bunny look on Taylors clematis site

    http://www.taylorsclematis.co.uk/

    they give details of how to prune. I think with Nelly Moser she is a Group 2 so is cut back to about 1m. But check

  • Bunny ...Bunny ... Posts: 3,455
    Great site thanks, I've saved it so will leave my hacking until I have checked.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,632

    Montana is a spring flowering clematis which you can prune after flowering finishes to keep it in bounds and/or renew vigour.   Nelly Moser is a group 2 so you prune afet the first flush of flowers in May/June.  remove some or all of the dead heads and prune back any stems taht are hetting too long.  You can also take out a main stem or two from the base to renew vigour and encourage flowering lower down.

    Give both a good feed after pruning and also from spring to flowering end.  Nelly Moser will produce a second flush of flowers in late summer if she's happy and well fed.   This website will help you identify your clematis and gives info on pruning and cultivation care - http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/ 

    The Vendée, France
  • This was a question about Nelly Moser cuttings, too, wasn't it? You root softwood cuttings in spring, semi-ripe cuttings in autumn. Personally, I have NEVER succeeded with softwood cuttings, only semi-ripe ones. however, I have read that the main reason for this is heat inside the plastic bag I put over the pots when I have taken the cuttings, so maybe I'll have another go this year, making sure I keep them cool. I have also read of someone rooting Nelly Moser in water, though apparently this took quite a few weeks.

  • with clematis you need to have to layer them to succeed ,or by seed,My friend did so successfully but not me.Nellie likes to be cut back about the end of imageFeb and again after flowering in summer(if stops raining) be careful not to cut back to far and if its a new plant wait until it is settled.I hear they have brought out a trailing small clematis for hanging baskets ,looks good.

  • Bunny ...Bunny ... Posts: 3,455
    Thanks all, I've had it couple of years but is hidden by a bamboo that's why I thought of moving it to a large pot to give it some better attention. Didn't do much last year I thought maybe due to lack of sun and so much rain on my clay soil.

    I shall try cuttings later , nothing to lose.



    The trailing one sounds lovely .
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,632

    Integrifolia varieties trail nicely as they are non clinging and often quite small.   I have alba and rosea which get to about 3'/1m each year in the ground.  They'd need regular feeding and watering to do well in a basket and it would need to be fairly deep for their roots.  I grew some in a long conical basket a few years ago but then moved them to a bed.

    Species clematis can be grown from seed but for named cultivars you need to do cuttings or cultivars.  I found this which explains how better than I could -

    Some species start well from cuttings; others do not. The vining types, especially cultivars, are usually started from cuttings or layering. Cuttings should be taken from healthy semi-mature stems of the current year’s wood. Each cutting should have one pair of leaves. The lower end of the cutting can be treated with a rooting hormone and then placed in a medium such as perlite, peat, sand, or a mix of these. Cover the cuttings and containers with plastic to maintain high humidity, then place them in bright light but not direct sun. Once rooted, plants can be potted individually and later placed in the garden.

    Many clematis can be propagated by layering (Figure 14). Select 1-year-old stems with good buds. Cut a 1-inch slit in the stem. Pin the stem to the soil in a container or on the ground with a wire. Cover the slit stem with soil and keep moist. Sever the stem when it has developed roots at the slit, gently dig up the rooted stem, and move it to the intended site.

    It was on this website - http://www.ianrpubs.unl.edu/epublic/pages/publicationD.jsp?publicationId=1027

    The RHS offers this advice on cultivating and propagating clematis - http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?pid=97 

    The Vendée, France
  • The trouble with growing from seed is that they take years to flower. Also, they don't come true to the parent plant. I agree that layering is the easiest option. According to the Garden Action website, the following clematis are easy to grow from cuttings -  alpinas, montanas, armandii, texensis, tangutica  Bill McKenzie, tibetana. Moderately easy are macropetalas, viticellas,large-flowered hybrids. There is more good info on there about propagating clematis.

  • Richard HodsonRichard Hodson Posts: 614

    Nothing beats growing your own new clematis from seed, I have registered several new varieties, the latest being a new pink herbaceous called Carol Klein, with Carol's approval I hasten to add, not yet available to purchase.

    To genuine enthusiasts I have plenty of spare seed, free, and will show you how to germinate them rapidly,

    E-mail me if genuinely interested, see website www.hawthornes-nursery.co.uk

    Details of the new Carol Klein can be found on Clematis on the Web A to Z

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 10,632

    Well, I love a good browse through a clematis website but I can't open that one from here or via google.

    The Vendée, France
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