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squirrel shot for coming to the table.



  • wessonwesson Posts: 6

    Under section 161 of the Highways Act1980, it is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or excuse, to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of any highway which comprises a carriageway, if in consequence, any user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered. For these purposes a carriageway means a highway (other than a cycle track) over which the public have a right of way for the passage of vehicles. Air rifles above 12ft/lbs are classified as a Section 1 Firearm and requires a licence (FAC) otherwise known as a firearms certificate, and an Air pistol above 6ftlb is a prohibited weapon.

    The following are considered pests.BIRDS: (covered by the open general licences) crows, rooks, jackdaws, magpies, jays, wood pigeon, collared doves, and feral pigeons.
    MAMMALS: brown rats, grey squirrels, stoats, mink and rabbits.

    If its not possible to be absolutely sure of killing any animal or bird humanely, then it should not be attempted. 



  • Busy-Lizzie wrote (see)

    "In France it's 150 metres from a dwelling but our local mayor told the local hunt not less than 300 metres from our house as we had children and animals when we moved here. Also he wouldn't let someone build a hide for shooting pigeons down our track because it was too close to the track and it's a public bridleway. So I would think it's 150 metres in the UK because of European law." 

    Wherever I've stayed in France you've got to be a bit brave to go out into the countryside on Sundays and one other day of the week, because what with the armaments and the unruly dogs it's not at all pleasant. I'm amused that your mayor allows adults to be shot from 150 metres, but makes it just a bit harder to get the kids.

    I think the control of the hunts is a bit variable across the France; in one place that I know, they seem to shoot anything that moves, and most of the locals despise them. I get the impression that the younger generations are not so keen on the hunt.

    I don't have the information about UK law, but I doubt if it's the same as in France just because we're in the EU. We do all sorts of things differently.


  • Dove hit the nail on the head. What has been the outcome of the guy?
  • i blame it all on the landed gentry it was them who brought in the gray squirrel and the magpie for more game shooting out of season.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 65,307

    image Wherever did you get that idea from?  The grey squirrel was introduced for it's 'decorative' qualities by the Victorians who liked collecting animals from other parts of the world but didn't understand the damage that can be done to delicately balanced ecosystems by the unthinking introduction of an alien species, and the magpie is a British and European native bird - it was never 'introduced here by anyone - particularly not to be shot as game.  What a strange idea image

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  • Squirrels are rats with tails, greys are far more destructive than reds, they are also less timid and more readily adapt to urban environments. There will come a point in the next few years where they are going to start paying people to shoot them, The rate they reproduce is similar to rats. I wouldn't shoot a red even if there were millions, because it is our native. Greys are invaders, much like mink, both are doing untold damage to our native flora and fauna, and all down to human stupidity. We need to clear up our mess, 5 shots on a squirrel I agree is rediculous, what was he using? a pea shooter?, I used to drop them with a .22 air rifle, usually in one, but sometimes 2 shots. If you can't shoot very good, perhaps using a gun is not a very wise choice.

    I love nature but on certain things we need to be tough. Urban foxes are another bug-bear of mine. They are a problem created by humans, they have very little to do with wild foxes. In the countryside you'd rarely see a fox and each has a huge territory mainly because it needs it to find enough food to survive. In towns and cities it's all you can eat all day everyday, consequently you have a population explosion. I see foxes nearly everyday, and certainly EVERY night. They consistantly poo everywhere, and rip everyones bin bags open, I've also seen first hand a fox go for a cat. Yes they are lovely, but in their correct environment. It is humans who have caused this problem, and it's up to us to fix it.

  • Rats are rats with tails. Apart from that, Slowly, you're generalising about things quite a lot. There's no way we can have any old Tom, Dick and Harry walking round Regent's Park 'dropping' every grey squirrel in sight, or sitting in their bedroom window picking off the squirrels on the bird table across the street. Yes, they cause considerable damage, but do you think no-one's trying to do anything? Sadly, we started about 100 years too late.

    As for foxes, as you say we provide them with too much food. I'm surprised there weren't a few on the train the other night clearing up after the stupid passengers.  However, I heard someone say the other day that numbers in some areas of London are falling. Tally-ho for the Hampstead and Highgate Hunt!

  • I would like to point out that foxes also catch rats ,I have seen them do this while walking to the hospital on a early shift and late shift,and we have lived with them for many years with out trouble,many of the cubs are killed on the main roads and let us not forget that humans are the worst for killing,cruelty,and many crimes and including leaving mess of every sort ,litter,and the destruction of many habitats across the world.Animals are only intent on their survival .We intervene too much  and then cry when it goes wrong.

  • Dont agree with hunts. If man didnt destroy the foxes enviroment then they would stay in the habitat they are meant to be in image
  • For some reason my post last night hasn't appeared. I remarked that my reference to the hunt was flippant, and that there is nowhere that foxes are meant to be.

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