squirrel shot for coming to the table.

I read into days paper that a man shot a squirrel 5 times (once would of been enough) a squirrel just because it came to the bird table where this person put food out.The squirrel can not possible know its not for him and ignore the bird table.He  is part of the wildlife that lives by opportunity and it is not for us to choose what comes if we put out food.We can make sure we do not encourage the rats and put squirrel proof cadges but we should not condemn them if they beat you at the defences.we are the intruders into their world and have encouraged much of the behaviour of these creatures.If you cant take the creatures you dislike into your heart ,don't feed the habit,and if you have to practice culling and pest control make sure you do it quick and cause no suffering.

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  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 16,805

    Actually, grey squirrels are the intruders in Britain and are pushing the native reds further and further north and reducing their numbers year by year.

    Grey squirrels are officially classed as vermin and it is legal to kill them humanely.  It is illegal to release a captured grey squirrel back into the wild.

    Infuriating for people who want to feed the native birds to see these tree rats nicking the food.

     

    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • flowering rose wrote (see)

    I read into days paper that a man shot a squirrel 5 times (once would of been enough) a squirrel just because it came to the bird table where this person put food out.The squirrel can not possible know its not for him and ignore the bird table.He  is part of the wildlife that lives by opportunity and it is not for us to choose what comes if we put out food.We can make sure we do not encourage the rats and put squirrel proof cadges but we should not condemn them if they beat you at the defences.we are the intruders into their world and have encouraged much of the behaviour of these creatures.If you cant take the creatures you dislike into your heart ,don't feed the habit,and if you have to practice culling and pest control make sure you do it quick and cause no suffering.

    Sorry flowering rose but this is a case of double-standards-correct me if I am wrong but were you not telling us a few weeks back to put broken glass in chocolate to kill rats-how humane do you consider that ?image

  • I think the grey squirrel was deliberately introduced into the UK in the mid-1800s somewhere in Cheshire - and spread rapidly, causing such a problem that during the 1950s there was a bounty of a shilling or a cartridge for a squirrel tail.  They do quite a lot of damage to young tree growth so I guess it may have been The Forestry Commission which instigated this.  I think they raid birds' nests too, so aren't good for wildlife in general so far as I can see.  I know someone who had to deal with a whole lot of problems in his house's loft, due to damage caused by squirrels nibbling at cables etc.    One of my nephews has a thatched house and has ongoing problems with squirrels damaging the thatch in the eaves.

     

    I got the impression that the person who was prosecuted was in some sort of dispute with his neighbours anyway - maybe if he'd been a better shot he might have got away with it.  I know that if you trap a squirrel, it's an offence to release it somewhere else.  You are supposed to dispose of it humanely, and not release it.

  • Yes, Charley, the offence was causing suffering to an animal. Silly man!

  • lazy,your right it ,but it is quite frighting that a man like that with gun can get so violent about a squirrel,where next if his temper took to using a gun?The neighbours cat?

  • Alina WAlina W Posts: 1,445

    I think that you underestimate quite how annoying some people find squirrels, Rose.

  • I think we need to get a bit better at living and letting live.

  • Jean GenieJean Genie Posts: 1,724

    Been reading this thread with interest. Is it only the greys that raid bird tables , do damage and generally put peoples backs up ?

    Do the reds have better table manners and are much more well behaved ?

    Grey squirrels were introduced by man. It is not their fault they are here at all and certainlly do not deserve to be shot at , maimed and left to suffer in agony. That squirrel was also shot in the face.

    Sorry, but that guy deserves all he gets ( and more.)

  • We can't escape the fact that grey squirrels are classed as "vermin" - as are rats, for example, and it is not against the law to kill them any more than it is against the law to kill rats.  The problem here seems to be that the person who got into trouble for killing a grey squirrel didn't manage to despatch it quickly and relatively painlessly - which is why I said in an earlier post that if he'd been a better shot he'd have got away with doing the deed.

    The greys carry some sort of disease which, whilst it doesn't seem to affect them  badly, does affect reds and is one of the reasons for the great reduction in the number of red squirrels in the UK.  I think the reds are less flexible (if that's the word) as regards diet too, so the greys can survive and flourish in a wider environment than the reds, which nowadays seem more or less confined to those areas where there are pine forests.  Clearly the "powers that be" consider the greys to be a serious problem because of the damage they cause so I personally have no problem with their being controlled provided that this can be done efficiently and without undue suffering.

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 13,643

    We only have red squirrels here in Dordogne and they are much shyer than grey squirrels. I have never seen one eat the birds' food in my garden I see them quite often when I walk in the woods, but they always rush up trees. Red squirrels only live in mixed forests where there are deciduous trees and evergreens so it's not just the grey squirrels fault. Human beings have destroyed their habitat. It is a shame grey squirrels have got so prolific. I think they are rather sweet, it's not their fault and, although I understand that perhaps they need to be culled, they should not be left to suffer and I think only professionals should deal with the culling. 

    Dordogne and Norfolk
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