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  • We came down a couple of days ago, to find an empty hen's eggshell on the patio between our back door & the bee hives. There was some clear goo nearby, presumably albumen from where it had been cracked open. Where would they get a hen's egg??
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 60,340

    Yes, so would rats.

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • DianaWDianaW Posts: 59

    Urban foxes in the street aren't so bad but they're a menace in back-to-back terraces of houses, which are normally a safe place for cats.

    Silly neighbours had neglected their back garden for years, so a fox made its den there. Now they're trying to sell their house, so they're doing more to make the garden look better and evidently disturbing the fox so much that it's constantly jumping through the gap (which I'd plugged with thorny branches) between our common wall and the trellis above it, to invade my garden.

    My poor cat is now terrified of going into her beloved garden unless I'm there to protect her. She tried marking her territory at first but the fox is now so bold that it comes right up to the back windows until I chase it away.

    I really need to get this particular fox out of the area but they were protected, last time I looked. Any brilliant ideas - apart from improving the thorny barricade?

  • Lou12Lou12 Posts: 1,149

    Cats Gatehill, a nice big territorial male. My cat Smoky sees em off and they haven't been back for a while. I also have two feral females and they see them off too.

    I've seen Smoky chasing one down the road.

    He isn't so brave with the seagulls though image

  • Bushman2Bushman2 Posts: 548

    Well some very strong opinions here on both sides.

    I'm an ex gamekeeper so know more about foxes than most i think. first fences' if you can do this it will work, a single strand of wire that's electrified. foxes hate getting a shock works well on badgers too and does them no harm. to set it at the right height  make fists with both hand one on top of the other and then put up your thumb on the top fist. put you hands on the ground and there's your height for the fence.If you have kids or animals of your own try lion dung tends to work the best. urine works wether your male or female by the way you need be very regular on marking your patch tho. unpleasant tho it is the best way is to fill a tin and make small pin holes in the bottom so the liquid slowly drips out. i take no sides i live and work in the countryside everyday and see and hear both sides of this argument. Hope this helps

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 24,602

    We have a fox on our land, but I'm sure it's ( they're ) vegetarian , given the numbers of baby rabbits we have this year.

    Devon.
  • Katherine WKatherine W Posts: 410

    We live in the middle of a forest, and so far no trouble, although there are many foxes around.... we have fences, although not the whole garden is enclosed. Some are electric fences (because of the ponies). We do the pee trick. Bit of a chore, but you can do it, (and yes, even if you are a female, just takes a bit longer)... nettle tea helps, lol.

    We have ducks, but we lock them up at night in a very safe little hut and we have small lights going around the hut at night.

    We keep all the rubbish in secure bins (we don't produce much rubbish attractive to foxes anyway)

    We have a dog and two cats and they are fairly alert to intruders (my white pussycat Muffin is our best 'watch-dog'... she will warn us of anything from stray cats to wild boars, and she's been known to kill magpies and snakes!). All the feed is in secure bins.

    If any foxes did show up, I'd add to the electric fences, and I would consider getting a motion activated water scarecrow. And a goose.

    I understand that in towns their populations escalated to unhealthy numbers and they have become parasites, but in the countryside they are part of the ecosystem and while I do protect my garden and pets as best I can, I don't think we have a right to exterminate predators... they were here before I came, and I knew they were. They belong here more than I do. If the foxes were gone we'd hve a plague of rats rabbits which are even more difficult to exclude.

     

     

  • Bushman2Bushman2 Posts: 548

    Katherine you seem to have it pretty well nailed. i consider rats much more of a problem than foxes. if nothing is really working give them a food source. foxes are lazy if they can get food easily it will stop them pillaging your bins. learn to live with them because if you have them in your area every time you get rid of a fox another will move in. if you can get one you can get along with they will keep other foxes away. Its a case of if at first you don't succeed try try try again. 

  • Katherine WKatherine W Posts: 410

    image Thank you Bushman, but in fact we are fine here, so far no trouble (in part because we have always been very careful in preventing it... this is our new garden, but our old garden was 300 m down the road in the same bit of forest, so we are familiar with the beasties here, we respect them, and so far they respect us... the only "problem" I have had with foxes so far is their "banshee screams" at night! I didn't know the sound at all when I moved here, and it gave me a few good creepy scares before I figured out what on earth it was!!! image

  • Bushman2Bushman2 Posts: 548

    Haha yes the vixens are really vocal december jan feb but at this time of year its the cubs. Sometimes sounds like a crying baby especially if they are really distressed. You should hear red dear theyre calls are really high pitched especially the hinds scared the life out of me when i first heard them.image

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