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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,735

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 21,526
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,735

    The money the grouse moors bring in  image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • I'm from mid Wales originally - mum still lives there - and red kites are making a good comeback. We see them over the village regularly - which is quite odd because they weren't there when I went off to uni about 15 years ago image

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,735

    They've been increasing in mid Wales  - I saw my first one there over the Elan Valley in 1975 image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • Fishy65Fishy65 Posts: 2,275

    Mid Wales was the only place to see a Red Kite up until about 20 years ago. Time was when the only diurnal bird of prey you would see here in East Northants was a Kestrel and the odd Hobby.

    Now we can add Red Kite,Buzzard,Sparrowhawk and Peregrine. Possibly Goshawks but its difficult with them being so secretive for a big raptor.

    Dove - that's brilliant seeing those Kites so far east!! image They make a different sound to Buzzards don't they, just as beautiful though.

  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 21,526

    John Paul Getty (II,I think) reintroduced them to central southern England some 25 years ago.

    Dove, I think that the gamekeepers only act on instructions from their employer?

    No good prosecuting and jailing the gamekeepers. The landowners are the ones who should be behind bars.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 82,735

    Some (not all) landowners put pressure on the gamekeepers - they don't need to 'give instructions'. image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 50,152

    It always saddens me. There aren't that many red kites up here as it is. As Dove says, the grouse industry is huge and while I also support that, the negative image often portrayed has to be stamped out.

    'Someone' knows exactly what they're doing - and should be held to account.

    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 21,526

    I suppose what I was rather ineptly trying to say was that gamekeepers, like employees the world over, want to hang onto their jobs by being loyal to their employer. No employee acts autonomously if they want to be looked upon as loyal. 

    If all landowners made it absolutely clear to their workforce that breaking the law by killing wild birds was anathema to them and contrary to what was expected of a loyal employee the problem would disappear. But they turn a blind eye. They let the gamekeepers take the rap. 

    It doesn't seem to make any difference whether it's Mr. Multimoneybags or the Duke of Whoever. Here we are in the Peak District National Park and hen harriers and other rare and beautiful birds are found shot and poisoned on a regular basis. The occasional person is prosecuted.

     

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
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