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  • bazabaza Posts: 651

    Hello Everyone I've found a rat hole which i know the beast of a rat uses, it is the other side of my fence.What i was thinking was sticking a hose pipe in it,as i can reach it through the holes in the fence,and either making them scatter or drown them.

    Would this help me?

    Thanks

    Baz

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 61,244

    Well, you'll move him out and you might drown his offspring - but if he's found somewhere nearby that provides him with food, he'll stay around - he'll just find somewhere else to live.  I think I'd leave the hole alone and show it to the rat man/woman when they come to lay the baits - you'll give them a chance to identify the rats' usual 'rat runs'etc.

    Good luck image

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  • bazabaza Posts: 651

    i have seen it twice now .When i saw it today it was on the other side of the fence less than a foot away from me when it strutted past me.The worrying thing is i hope its not getting used to me being there.

    Baz

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 61,244

    Lull it into a false sense of security then fell it with a scissor kick! image

    “I am not lost, for I know where I am. But however, where I am may be lost.” Winnie the Pooh







  • BoaterBoater Posts: 241

    Make sure your traps are against a wall with the baited side to the wall - I'm not sure exactly why but it seems to be to make sure the rats (or mice in mouse traps) are in the right position for the trap to kill them. Near the wall because the travel along walls not out in the open.

    Wear gloves to avoid getting your scent on the traps or bait.

    Consider that mice will also like the same bait as rats and may be small enough for the trap to snap shut without touching them....

    I'm not sure about spring traps outdoors where any beasties could set them off, I'm trying a poison bait box for my 'rat' (bound to be more than one) and really hoping it does the trick.

    I looked into other methods - humane traps sound great (especially because you can release anything else you catch in error) but it is illegal to release a live black rat or grey squirrel in the UK so you need a method to kill them in relatively humane way after you capture them (starving to death or drowning are not considered humane enough). On private land in England you could use an airgun, but probably not in an allotment. In Scotland it seems we will be getting an airgun licensing law later this year where you would need a good reason to get a license, vermin control is a good enough reason, but apparently not if you are doing it in a small or urban garden, so I'll be staying well clear of airguns. Also you need to be a good shot for shooting to be humane.

    So realistically the DIY options are spring traps or poison in bait boxes - either way you need to be careful about placement to avoid accidentally killing something else.

    Professionals have more options that we do DIY, for example they are able to use equipment to asphyxiate rats caught live, and access to different poisons, so if the simple options don't do it, best to call in the experts.

  • bazabaza Posts: 651

    Hello Boater i have had to resort to poison as i found the nest .It is at the bottom of my allotment on the the other side of my fence .What i did was put 2 piles of poison near the entrance holes, and they were big piles of the stuff , one night and in the morning checked the poison and every bit of it had been eaten .When i told my neighbour that they had eaten the lot he said there must of been a lot a of rats to eat that much.

    The rat catcher is coming to the allotments soon so i will rebait that area again to see if they are still there or have perished.

    Its not just my allotment other people are having problems too but i hope what i'm doing other people are too

    Thanks

    Baz

  • bazabaza Posts: 651

    Will do 1Runnybeak1 i also put some under the shed where the dropping are but that hasnt been touched so in a way i'm pleased they have moved from there but you are right about the rat catcher he or she will be the best preson to get rid of these pests as i and many others don't want rats eating crops or peeing on them.

    Thanks

    Baz

  • bazabaza Posts: 651

    Just an update on the rat problem .The Ratman came and baited lots of allotments mine included and at the moment the rats haven't touched the bait that is hidden in my allotment but other people have told me the bait in their gardens has been taken so hopefully the problem is now under control but i'll be keeping an eye on things.

    Baz

  • I have been trying for years to attract hedgehogs into my garden; I have a pond, wild areas and a specially designed house ( a "des. res.") by a log pile under trees but no hogs have visited or stayed. All I have seen so far are dead rats in the straw filled bedroom- what am I doing wrong?  I so much want a hedgehog to share or at least visit my garden!

  • Mark56Mark56 Windsor, BerkshirePosts: 1,653

    Susannah, search our Help Save the Hedgehogs threads, lots of advice there. You could try a feeding station - search youtube for tutorials but the main thing is ensuring access to and from your garden with neighbours e.g. via holes in gates or fences 

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