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Hello all,

 

I'm new here, new to gardening too for that matter, and I'd like some advice from the 'veteterans' here.

I've recently taken an interest in gardening when the wife and I bought a static caravan in the Netherlands.

It stands on a nice patch of land and I want to make the garden a bit more interesting so I started gathering seeds last year from local wild flowers.

Amongst them is the (in)famous thornapple, I know it's highly toxic but it's a lovely plant in my opinion.

Does anybody have any experience in growing them such as when to sow them?

I picked the seeds and stored them in a paper envelope in the basement.

This is the plant I found them on

 

 

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I know this one's past his prime, but I saw another one a few weeks before and it was quite spectacular.

Thanks for any help.

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  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 20,551

    There is lots of interesting info here

    http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/t/thorna12.html

    Good luck.

    And Hakuna matata to you too.image

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  • nutcutletnutcutlet PeterboroughPosts: 26,569

    I just let them seed themselvesimage

  • Oh thanks pansyface, that's very usefull image

    I found this one too at the same site (and collected seeds) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicandra.

    And before you might ask yourselves: no, I'm not some weirdo who wants them for illigal uses image

    I've got Vicia cracca, poppies, Lathyrus pratensis and Aruncus amongst others.

    I just flatly refuse to see them as ordinairy 'weeds' as a lot of people do.

    I kind of fell in love with wildflower meadows when I visited the village of Thorn in late summer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn,_Netherlands.

    Never seen its likes before, it inspired me to do a native border at my caravan there.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 79,519

    Interesting plants are interesting plants - I grow quite a few British natives that other people may consider to be weeds image

    Not sure that Datura or Nicandra are considered to be natives of the UK or the Netherlands image

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  • LOL!!!

    To true Dove but I bet that if we'd leave out all the 'invasive' species and stick solely to native plants that our gardens and landscapes would look very bleak.

    I've been to Scotland a few years ago and I remember very well a floral 'waterfall' of Rhodondendron on a hillside in Glencoe... that plant comes from Asia.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 79,519

    It does indeed - and it's now considered a pest in many areas of the UK and is being methodically taken out at the cost of millions of pounds http://www.eryri-npa.gov.uk/the-environment/invasive-species/rhododendron

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/environment/destroy-all-rhododendrons-in-scotland.24489764

    I'm not saying that we shouldn't grow species from elsewhere - just that we should be aware of what is native and what isn't, and what damage some non-natives can do to the bio-diversity of the envirionment where they grow.  Rhododendrons smother the growth of other plants and trees, provide little or no food for invertebrates birds or mammals and do not attract insects.  Areas where they've been allowed to spread become barren forests of just rhododendrons with little animal or insect life.

    Nothing to do with your question, but just thought I'd mention it image

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  • I fleetingly read those articles and I must say they're interesting.

    Despite it's a beautiful plant it can be a pest.

    On our campsite are a few of them too, they're kept in check but can grow to a towering height and so can block out the view and sunlight on some spots.

    I can understand why they're being removed in the wild.

    I was thinking on getting one too for my little garden but desided against it, my focal point of choice is the Euonymus.

    The birds seem to love their berries so that's an extra bonus image

  • Ok, sorry it took me some time to get back here but things got really busy over the festive season.

    I can proudly say that as of today I've sown my thornapples, along with Nicandra.

     

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    All tucked in nice and quiet, see you in spring, kids image

    To be honest I tought it would be more relaxing this gardening but nothing could be further from the truth, it's bloomin' exciting and a ton of fun image

     

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