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soulboysoulboy Posts: 429

Hi, I planted a wildflower border this year, although the box of seed contained many garden cultivars and non-native species. The two plants below have proliferated where these seeds were planted and I'm hoping someone can identify them from the leaves, as they've produced no flowers.

I'm hoping that they may be biennials or perennials that haven't flowered yet, but I'm suspicious that they me be 'undesirables' that I need to get rid of. The leaves of the first do remind me of forget me not, but the leaves seem larger and a darker green.

The second one, with the heart-shaped leaves is everywhere in the garden and these pic's are of some of the less-developed ones.



  • Second and third pics look like Honesty.  first could be forgetmenot - some have bigger darker leaves image

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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 13,244

    agree with Dove on both

    There are ashtrays of emulsion,
    for the fag ends of the aristocracy.

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 26,986

    I think the second might be the one that has darkish pink flowers, rather a pungent smell and has running white roots. Can't bring any of it's names to mind thoughimage

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 26,986

    But I have books

    Stachys sylvatica, hedge woundwort

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • LynLyn Posts: 21,373

    Think nut is right, it springs up all over my garden, I am forever pulling if out, it almost equals buttercups here.

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 9,976

    If the 3rd plant has dark leaf stems and a tap root I have lots of it - but no idea what it is

    Flowers are like honesty, but the round seed heads do not appear.

    Spreads all over the place - very much a weed in my garden

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • soulboysoulboy Posts: 429

    Thanks everyone. I pulled one of the plants with heart-shaped leaves this morning to examine it more closely. No tap root. It appears to have running white roots as Nutcutlet mentioned.The leaves are not as hairy in some pictures I found but you can see them with a magnifying glass.

    I think hedge woundwort is right. It's growing in front of the back garden hedge in undeveloped ground, so exactly the habitat it's known to be in. I'm going to take most of them out, leaving one or to to develop to confirm the ID. I have plenty of other plants that are bee-friendly and I don't want it taking over the border.

    I'll do the same with the first plant I think because there are quite a few. I'll update when and if the plants flower.

  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 26,986

    A rather pungent smell will confirm ID soulboy. image

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • the first is definitely forget me not. a weed if u have a small garden, because they produce seeds in bucket loads.


  • soulboysoulboy Posts: 429

    Nutcutlet, sadly my sense of smell is a bit hit and miss. I have good periods and bad periods. I treid smelling the leaf but couldn't smell anything. But I am having second thoughts about the ID as I checked the list of seeds on the box again and found that Honesty is listed. Missed it the first time in the long list of tiny print.

    The leaves of both plants are very similar so it's jusat a case of wait and see now.

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