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LowennaLowenna Posts: 88

Just wondered what people thought of the first programme from Hampton Court, this morning?

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  • Gary HobsonGary Hobson Posts: 1,892

    I did see the program this morning. It was on at an odd time - 11am. I wouldn't have watched but it was raining outdoors and I had nothing better to do.

    It seemed to be a program made for daytime TV, non-gardening viewers. The first half seemed to consist of RdT among the lupins. Very colourful, and nice jolly music. Good light entertainment. I like lupins.

    The second half got a bit more serious (but not much). Some gentleman was trying to promote gardens without lawns, claiming that grass is the most labour intensive part of a garden. He suggested using gravel instead. In my experience, gravel is an invitation to weeds. Those 'tiny' gardens each cost around £13,000. I don't know how they'd furnish a big garden.

    Crazy paving seems to be back in fashion.

    I liked the mini-wood with Monty, very naturalistic.

    And Alys Fowler has a new job description 'the author Alys Fowler'.

    I liked the lupins and the wood, but overall, I felt the program was bland.

  • little-annlittle-ann Posts: 878

    I tuned in to Hampton Court Palace flower show and got such a shock to find it was all about flowers and gardens. Ayls is an author and has articles in a wide range of magazines she may not be to everybody's taste but her points of view are as valid as anyone else's, i agree with the gentleman about lawns i prefer not to waste my time with one,and i expect if you added up how much you would have spent in labour and have spent on materials for your own garden you might be surprised image

  • Tina5Tina5 Posts: 46

    I missed it. But..I got fed up with The Chelsea Flower Show coverage. It seemed more about the ubiquitous Clare Balding than the flowers or gardens. I'd have like more garden and flower shots and less boring chit chat! (maybe I'm just grumpy ...)

     

    I like a bit of grass...but mine is full of clover for the bees, so it doesn't get cut too often, I' don't mind it a bit wild and wooly. I couldn't grace it with the term 'lawn' though. It more 'managed wildflower meadow' That's my story, anyway.....

  • LowennaLowenna Posts: 88

    I've sertainly spent more than £13,000 on my garden image and I would certainly do without a lawn, in fact mine shrinks year by year as I add more beds. I'm not looking forward to the apparent emphasis on veg in the later programmes, I expect that's where Alys will come in.I'll certainly watch  the other 2 evening programmes though - there's so little ablout plants and gardens on tv, it'd be rude not to image

  • Gary HobsonGary Hobson Posts: 1,892

    A few thoughts about Thursday night's program.

    The Best in Show garden was announced. It's a garden called Bridge Over Troubled Waters.

    Joe Swift actually visited this garden in the preview show. I didn't mention this earlier, because I didn't wish to lower the tone. In the preview Joe explained what this garden is actually about - it's about bladder control. Hence 'troubled waters'. Doubtless this subject is important to many, but, well...

    Last night we saw a lot of other show gardens recreating the native environment of other countries. I wonder what is point of doing this. Why not celebrate our own plants... plants that would actually be at home in our climate.

    One garden 'symbolised' a Tsunami. We were told that some stone 'symbolised' this, that a tree 'symbolised' something else, etc, etc. I suppose some people would say that this is gardening as 'art'. I'm far from convinced.

    The sections on campanulas and and sweet peas were interesting, to those who grow those plants.

    Monty did a feature about trying to get more schoolchildren to take up horticulture as a career, and public perceptions of horticulture, and gardeners. Talent goes where the money is, or it should.

    At the end RdT briefly mentioned the RHS campaign to get gardeners to plant more bee-friendly plants. There was a more about this in the press yesterday:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/9376363/RHS-launch-list-of-400-bee-friendly-plants.html

    Maybe that will be mentioned at greater length in Friday's program.

  • gardeningfanticgardeningfantic Posts: 1,019

    i watched it in the evening and thought it was good.. must admit the bit on the fact that we have missed 2 generations of horticulturists made me  snigger.. as i thought "well what you expect there is nothing much on tv about gardening programmes, and hte one we do have has been put on hold" that is so bad really that news.

    thought the gardens were great but wouldof liked to see a garden from england in there.. but still not bad.. see about the plants for bees and butterflies tonight. so will be ready and waitin for it.

     

  • Gracie5Gracie5 Posts: 125

    I didn't know it was going to be televised because I didn't see any trailers for it. I missed the first programme so will have to catch up on I player. I am going to record tonight's episode so I can fast forward the boring bits. I'm looking forward to the item on Bees, although I think I have reached the stage where I know just about everything there is to know about planting for wildlife.  Glad Sarah Raven was mentioned on last night's  programme, she has done great work in promoting pollinating plants and raising awareness, but I will say the RHS have been very slow to catch up and are only recently talking more about the subject.  

  • Gary HobsonGary Hobson Posts: 1,892
    gardeningfantic wrote (see)

    .. must admit the bit on the fact that we have missed 2 generations of horticulturists made me snigger.. as i thought "well what you expect" ....

    It seemed to me a bit rich for Monty to be complaining about the public's perception of horticulture and gardeners. If anyone is in a position to influence this it's him and the BBC.

  • ObelixxObelixx Vendée, Western FrancePosts: 22,237

    There was a Bee Friendly garden at the 2010 Chelsea Flower Show.  The RHS then introduced the Bee Friendly plant labels at last year's Chelsea Flower Show and in cahoots with the horticultural industry and it had clearly been in the planning for some time before Sarah Raven's programme went out on the Beeb.  The RHS also does a great deal of work to support gardening projects and classes in thousands of schools across the UK so it's a bit rich to say they're slow.  They just don't plaster it across the tabloids for all to see.

    They could probably do more to catch public attention and recent appointments to their Council should help but they have done very well in signing contracts with the Beeb to get extensive coverage of Chelsea and air time for coverage of shows like Malvern, GW show, Hampton Court and Tatton.    Now it's time for the Beeb to wake up and promote gardening as physical and spiritual therapy for all and careers for some with some decent programme content and scheduling across the year.

    I didn't see the first Hampton Court programme but thought the second was interesting.    Many of our favourite garden plants, which also help pollinators, coem from far flung countries so those gardens were relevant if not always to my taste.  The slots on sweet peas and campanulas were interesting and the horticultural careers debate worth raising but there'll always be a stigma against gardeners and gardening as a career as long as most people continue to think of them as nothing more than unskilled cutters of grass and hedges deserving of low pay and little respect.

    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • PalaisglidePalaisglide Posts: 3,414

    I did watch the Hampton Court programme last night and my heart went out to the plants people who worked so hard to get some half decent plants ready only to have them washed out, heart breaking yet they will be back next year, that is dedication for you.
    The World gardens were interesting and having spent time in dry arid places thought the first view of the Jordanian garden far more typical than the view through the arch.
    Some of the so called gardens I would call flamboyant fashion models seen once and forgotten others more in the realm of us gardeners but we would soon be adding removing and altering things to put our mark on it.
    Alys is the modern trend having watched her trips through her own garden on TV I did wonder how she found anything in it. It did look more like a teenagers bedroom.
    RdT always shows her knowledge and adds a certain something for us older watchers.
    The sweet pea section was enlightening in that he sows his seed very early in the year and mulches well, so much for the thousands of posts on here as to Autumn or spring sowings, root pots or not, and any other fads we have, the plants man gets them in and lets them find their own way and quite successfully too.
    Lawns can be hard work depending on whether you want a bowling green, football pitch or a nice green plot in your garden. I have two, one put down a year or two back where there had been gravel with a lot of pots on it, I much prefer the lawn. If it is too much there are plenty of people who seem to be in the business, I see vans arrive then a short period of noise and they are gone, then the people are not retired as I am so probably need the help.
    Overall Interesting and anything is better than wall to wall tennis so I will look forward to tonight's programme.

    Frank

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