Kale & Beans

KEFKEF Posts: 8,915

I've read that you shouldn't plant them near to each but no reason was given. I don't intend limiting their space or underplanting. Just wondered if anyone knew why they shouldn't be in the same bed. image

Thanks.

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,611

    Never heard of that - where did you read it?

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  • 4thPanda4thPanda Posts: 4,145

    It wasn't me Dove image

  • KEFKEF Posts: 8,915

    I Googled companion planting and found a site that had a chart which also included what not to plant together. I'd forgotten about it until I decided to sow some more this morning and wondered if others knew, my first year for growing kale. image

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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener LeicsPosts: 6,472

    Sounds odd to me too.  Beans fix Nitrogen and Kale needs that.  Companion planting (there are two definitions of that - one is for pest control and the other is entirely different and is for nutrient sharing) is often used with the oldest known one being "3 sisters" where you plant sweetcorn (need N and provides natural 'poles' for the beans), climbing beans (fix N) and squash (living mulch to reduce weeds and shade roots) all together in the same place, usually a mound.

    I've done it many times and it does work.

    The only negative concerns crop rotation.  This is important to prevent pest and disease build-up in the soil.  I found this to be more important in the long run so no longer use the nutrient-sharing type of companion planting except with sweetcorn when I always plant beans with them as they can be trained to support the corn by intertwining between stems, completely eliminating the need for poles and string.

    Lots of experimenting has been done in my garden over many years - can you tell? image

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  • 4thPanda4thPanda Posts: 4,145

    Tee hee hee image

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,611

    Bob, are you growing beans and sweetcorn together this year?  I'd love a photo of that - we're quite limited for space and we find that runner beans and sweetcorn both take up a lot of room, if we could amalgamate them successfully that would be great! image

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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener LeicsPosts: 6,472

    Hi Dove, not this year as I had limited space due to the new polytunnel so skipped any crops which can be unreliable and need good weather, just in case - sweetcorn is a bit dodgy in this respect for.  I'll have a look through my photo archives though - there may be a shot in there somewhere. image

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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 11,220

    I read about growing beans up sweet corn, but I grow my sweet corn in a block, planted a foot apart. (7 x 10).  As it is I have to wriggle through the gaps to harvest the sweet corn, as it seems to be the ones in the middle that ripen first(presumably due to better pollination in the centre of the block). I wondered how much harder it would be if beans were all over them as well. How big a block do you have and how far apart do you plant the sweetcorn.?

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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener LeicsPosts: 6,472

    Usually about 1.5x1.5m fidget, so small enough to reach in to the centre.  I agree it would be a bit of a tangle on anything larger!

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,611

    Any particular variety of bean Bob?  

    This is very interesting .............. image

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