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Growing Roses

The rose (according to a survey I have read) is reckoned to be the nations favourite flower (followed by the sweet pea). So I thought perhaps it should have a place where the growing of them can be discussed.

This is the climber 'Leaping Salmon'......growing up & over my pergola.





  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 21,177


     Warm Welcome, a miniature climber, by our front door.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • pansyfacepansyface PEAK DISTRICT DerbyshirePosts: 21,177


     The bottom right hand corner of a 5 metre high Maigold.

    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 20,364

    Do you want photos, or discussions on how to grow roses, or both?

    Does anyone know how old climbing roses live to? Some of mine are about 22 years old and getting quite woody.

    Dordogne and Norfolk
  • yarrow2yarrow2 Posts: 782

    Great idea for the topic thread.  I have little experience with roses, would love to have more but due to my uncertainty of how to best care for them, I've limited myself in the past to buying cheaply from DIY centres - and this for me has been disappointing. e.g. last year I set out to purchase 2 white roses, highly scented.  And there were two roses labelled 'white' and 'highly fragranced'.  I eagerly planted both.  They were both pink.  Had no fragrance whatsoever and the stems after early spring pruning are extremely thin and cannot support the flowers when they bloom.  In this instance, I feel the labelling was careless and obviously wrong.  Could have happened when bulk supplies of roses were being moved around, or perhaps were labelled incorrectly by the supplier.  In any case, it put me of spending any more money on cheapies.

    I inherited 8 roses over 20 years old from my late mother's garden and each of us in the family shared her roses.  Sadly I lacked the knowledge and confidence to take cuttings in order to continue her devotion over many years and in my garden they have not done well at all after the first year.  And they were beautiful roses but I just didn't know how best to care for them because of their age and didn't recognise what signs the plants were showing in order to truly save them and do the right thing.

    Pansyface - I am thrilled to see your rose Warm Welcome.  My OH spent 10 months in hospital this last year and I used to visit him every day in an area not well known to me.  Every day I would pass a house which had this glorious rose growing up the sides of their front door and it was both cheering to see and a real stunner.  Looking at your photograph, I have a strong feeling that it as indeed your Warm Welcome rose.

    I love roses but no matter how I improve very poor soil in this city garden, I don't think it will ever really sustain good roses.  We are surrounded by high buildings and tend to get much humidity and dampness in the summer months and I don't think the lack of good air circulation is that great for roses and mildew is a real problem.  Also, even the existing roses of my late mum's which were scented don't give off much fragrance in this garden and I suspect that that too is the humid conditions.  Is this possible?

    I would really need to find disease resistant, very strong growers which could survive in not ideal conditions and I would love the miracle of fragrance which I have not been able to attain so far.  I need any advice I can get.

    I'm sorry my posts tend to be very lengthy.  It's just so great for me to find other people so into gardening that I tend to blurt out my thoughts like an avalanche and forget to stop.  Apologies everyone.

  • chickychicky SurreyPosts: 10,293

    Don't apologise Yarrow - great to hear your thoughts.image  

    I grow lots of roses - they seem to like our quite heavy clay.  But they also get 2 mulches of FYM a year, and get fed Potash in Feb, and roes fertiliser in April and June, so they don't go hungry.  Most of mine are now 4 years old, nearly all from David Austin as bare roots, and are beginning to fill out nicely.  Will be following this thread with interest to see if there are more tips to pick up.  And in the meantime, here is Gertrude J ....



  • MrsGardenMrsGarden Posts: 3,951
    Love the warm welcome, Pansy, such an unusual colour.

    I have one small inherited rose, probably 'masquerade' (used to be able to spell that!). The other I bought this year, David austins generous gardener. This was bought after phone advice from'david austin' and will hopefully be trained as a climber. I wanted a fairly thorn free rose, but it does seem to have quite a few. I read last night that the thorns are to help the rose climb, hence why a thornless climber is difficult to find. Always thought roses were ' a bit too difficult' and im hoping this thread helps with that stumbling block.
  • Steve 309Steve 309 Posts: 2,753

    Not that much into ornamentals myself, but I do like a nice rose.  And these pics look lovely.My mum has a few here in stony clay in N London; and they never have more than a few flowers each.  How can I persuade them to be more forthcoming?

    (Well, Steve, it depends.  Are they being fed?  Do you prune them properly?)

  • rosemummyrosemummy Posts: 2,010

    david what would we do without you, thankyou, chicky i love gertrude, mine has 2 lovely flowers and lots of buds, i go out to smell my roses early each morning and evening, i am a beginner certainly, but i love roses so much that since we've lived here i've bought 11, brought gertrude from old house and inherited one! i still have 2 or 3 on my wishlist, i followed planting instructions carefully and pruned and mulched and fed this spring, all look pretty good but hope they will all become more floriferous in time

  • rosemummyrosemummy Posts: 2,010

    ooh just saw mrs g i i have benerous gardener, had to move the poor thing and it went into 'rrotshoick' but after following advice from david austin phone helpline and of course here, it's recovering very nicely, zepherine drouhin is a thornless climber, i have that too

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