If you put them in pots use ericaceous compost. If putting them in the ground I would
Dig a hole bigger than needed and put some ericaceous compost in, then your bushes. Don't put them in deeper than they were before.
Give them a good watering.
Curse yourself in a couple of years when they are sprouting up everywhere.
If you like coffee then used coffee grinds make a good mulch (you can get them from places like starbucks for free) and so do dropped pine needles (but not everyone has a pine forest nearby). Oak leaves are supposed to be acidic too.
If the leaves on your bushes look pale and you don't think the canes are growing quickly enough I would guess that your soil isn't acid enough (look up "raspberry iron deficiency" on google images). A simple and quick solution is to add ammonium sulfate.
If they aren't even getting to the stage of producing leaves in spring then your ground was probably too waterlogged or infected with some virus.
Hi gillyg......just said I've already done that on the previous post.......I don't have the money to buy specific varieties, especially if they all die, however, I got 5 canes for Christmas last year , all named as good by RHS........all now dead!
cheers, farmergeddun.......love real coffee,so can use the grounds. A coupleofplants did start with leaves........but died. The others never even got to the leaf stage. The ground's not waterlogged but no idea re viruses......tho' they didn't grow in the pots either.
Think one spot I tried must've had too many roots from nearby small ash tree. Thought I'd give it a try cos there was a huuuuuge old clump of kale been growing happily for at least 25yrs......but it didn't work.
I reckon your soil isn't quite acidic enough. Kale likes it a little bit more towards the neutral ph scale than raspberries.
When you grew them in pots (or tried to) what soil/compost did you use?
Can't remember , I afraid........what would you advise? & do you think they'll work in pots? Might try 1 in pot & 1 in ground.
They will work in pots, it's just a pain to water them all the time while the fruit is setting. They like plenty of water, but don't like their roots sitting in it.
I would buy some ericaceous compost and plant them in that. Just make sure you give them a good mulch so that the acidity is replaced when it's naturally diluted during winter rains.
Do you have an area of your garden where brambles like to grow? If so I'd put your raspberries there - they thrive in the same conditions.
If you still have no luck next year I would try loganberries - a cross between raspberries and blackberries and a bit more tolerant of differnent soil types.
As for diseases, raspberries are prone to :
Cane spot - purplish spots on the leaves and fruit. The canes need to be cut to beneath ground level and burnt and then a copper fungicide used on the growing canes as they emerge.
Grey Mould - The canes start to die off. Cut back to fresh growth and burn dead canes. Prune the canes back to let air circulate around them.
Spur blight is like cane spot with purple blotches but on the canes and the canes start to turn silver. In spring the buds and shoots die back. Again cut out diseased canes and burn them. Use a copper fungicide when the buds have grown about an inch.
Aphids can also be a problem. Look for the leaves curling, underneath there will be a sticky mess of tiny insects. There are a number of ways of getting rid of aphids but I just remove the badly affected leaves, try to wash the others and then spray with a strong solution of washing up liquid. If there are ants on there as well I try to find the nest and destroy it as they (literally) farm the little buggers.
Cheers farmergeddun! V comprehensive reply........which I will take good note of it! Always use the washing up liquid method for aphids......my Nan's top tip!
i don't have any brambley areas........horsetails grow with the same abandon as the kale tho'.
shall bear the loganberries in mind...it might be a good compromise....do they taste raspberriyish tho?
They taste like a cross between blackberry and raspberry.
I bet I have more horsetail growing in my garden than you! It's now growing out of my concrete steps.
Lol! I've lost a 20' path somewhere in the midst of my horsetails! Carpeted part of the garden about 20yrs ago......and they're coming through that now!! That's why they're pretty much unchanged since prehistoric times!
I've given up trying to get rid of it. I cut it if it gets too big - but now that area is the "natural" (what I really mean is lazy) garden with wildflowers.
Oddly, I can't grow wild flowers either! Lovely creeping buttercups ........and after years of trying, an over-abundance of forget-me-nots.......are all I managed to grow. You say lazy.......I say lovely, insect-friendly.......and low maintenance!