Moles AND Crane flies

Hello, Two weeks ago we had 168 square metres of turf laid to replace the previous front lawn, which was a total mess, and it looks lovely BUT we have what appears to be an Army of moles working their way all over it. Only one molehill above so far, but lots of splits where the joins are. As well as that we have hundreds of Crane flies which are probably laying their eggs in the lawn, as we found Leatherjackets in the ground when the old lawn was removed. Can anybody tell me what we can do to get rid of both moles and Crane flies please?


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,604

    You can use Nematodes to kill off the leatherjackets - it needs to be applied when the soil temperature is 12C or above.

    As for the moles, did you have moles before the lawn was laid?  I don't think that splits in the joins are necessarily indicative of mole action.  

    If you do have moles they're probably after the leatherjackets so getting rid of them will hopefully send Mr Moldy Warp looking for lunch elsewhere. 

    No-one knows if you've done your housework, but everyone knows if you've done your gardening !
  • star gaze lilystar gaze lily Posts: 11,255

    We get them in the back garden now and again, they seem to go along to our neibours too causing havoc in many gardens. I'm afraid some of our neibours have had someone in to get  rid of them, it does the trick for a few months but they seem to return. image


  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 19,713

    Dove - did you read the Alison Uttley 'Little Grey Rabbit' stories too? image

    Never met anyone else who knows them.

    Sorry - off topic!

    The splits are probably just from lack of water, or turfs not being laid tightly enough together Silver Surfer. Has it been very dry?

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,604

    Sent you a PM FG image

    No-one knows if you've done your housework, but everyone knows if you've done your gardening !
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 24,225

     moles sometimes make runs just under the surface leaving a low line of raised soil. This would push up turf. I've never tried to stop them, Idon't have a lawn, I have some grass

  • SwissSueSwissSue Posts: 1,447

    Apparently, moles absolutely hate noise. I have read about a method in a gardening magazine here that apparently works. Knock some metal/iron rods about 8 inches deep into the ground in the area where the moles are wreaking their havoc. Hit something regularly against these so that quite a loud sound is produced which spreads underground. One must, however, do this quite frequently, so it works.

    Sounds daft, I know, but may be worth a try.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Central Norfolk UKPosts: 43,604

    Nutcutlet said: "moles sometimes make runs just under the surface leaving a low line of raised soil. This would push up turf."

    But would they just run along the joins of the turves - surely turves are laid in a Stretcher Bond like in a brick wall? Silver Surfer referred to "splits where the joins are" .  Can't imagine moles zig-zagging image

    No-one knows if you've done your housework, but everyone knows if you've done your gardening !
  • WelshonionWelshonion Posts: 3,115

    Moles are solitary animals, except when they get together in Spring.  It will be one mole at this time of year.  The splits indicate lack of water or as others have suggested the turves were not packed tightly enough.  The Autumn rains will sort the lawn out for you, but not the mole.

  • Thank you all for your replies.

    Dovefromabove - Yes there were molehills, but on the other side of the fence, and just before the turf was laid we did notice some bumps along the sleepers where the edge of the grass is now. We have been watering it almost every day, apart from when it rained, for the past two weeks.

    The splits are only in that part of the grass nearer the sleepers along the edge of the front border.

    We have got two battery operated gadgets buried in the border on our side of the fence, which vibrates every now and again, but that doesn't seem to have put it off.

    I had better get some Nematodes before the weather turns colder.
  • BerghillBerghill Posts: 2,823

    Well I am very sorry Silver surfer,b ut getting rid of moles is well nigh impossible. I have tried every method ever suggested on any website and nook and TV. None of them work. Scissor traps will catch them if you can find the run as opposed to the shallow feeding runs. Here the runs are below a thick layer of rick rubble, so are almost impossible to dig down to.

    I have been told that running a pipe from the exhaust on the lawn mower or leaf blower would put carbon monoxide into the run and as it sinks it would kill the blighters. Sadly I have not yet found a way of attacking a pipe to the machines.

    And before the flak starts about killing things, try explaing to visitors why the Iris garden is dead, or the £250 Daphne Jacqueline Postil died. Or worse still rushing the elderly womean to hospital when she sprained her ankle when the mole run collapsed uner her foot.

    In a garden this size we think there are three seperate moles and they are slowly destroying it.

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