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Re-wilding an artificial lawn... Need help!!!

Hello forum!

I've already received some helpful advice about another area of my new garden but i am also hoping for some help with a bigger project.

I'm still in planning stage as I don't really have any budget at the moment but it's good to think about what i will do about this specific problem.

Previous owners of our house put in a large expanse of plastic lawn in 2018.  It seems to be of a high quality and a good job done, but unfortunately I really, really hate artificial grass, for many reasons, most of which are probably obvious to anyone who likes nature and gardening.  Anyway, I want to get rid.  Problem is, underneath the offending plastic, is a layer of sand, a layer of membrane and then about 10cm or so of compacted rubble (may be deeper in other areas as I think they had it levelled off, and I've only checked one bit- the neighbours garden slopes a lot more than ours). The area is quite big and I don't think i'm up to the task of removing however many tonnes  of rubble are under there, so am looking at other options.

I don't want to replace with lawn necesarily. My original though was to remove plastic grass and just build raised beds on top of the rubble,  and have gravel paths in between, but not sure about drainage, or about them drying out too much in hot summers?  I'm also not sure I can make the design look as natural as i'd like with  raised beds as they're a bit angular... although have seen some nice ones on pinterest.

And then I also wondered about if I could just turn it into a gravel garden?  could I just dig into the rubble somehow (with a pickaxe???) and remove some, add soil etc and just grow specific plants?  i don't know how much soil is actually involved in a gravel garden, presumably some, under the gravel???

As you can tell I am a beginner, but I want to be able to do as much of this myself to keep costs down.

Does anyone have any ideas/inspiration/experience of re-wilding an artifical lawn????

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  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 22,685
    You don’t say where you live, but could you take up the plastic grass and throw down some gravel and plant it up like Derek Jarman’s garden?
    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • Ecat27Ecat27 Posts: 6
    HI thanks for yur reply.  I'm in Norfolk (Norwich specifically).  The garden faces SE and gets a lot of sun in summer. I think a gravel garden could work but just wondering how much digging down into the hardcore stuff I'd need to do...  i presume I'd still need to dig some holes and provide some soil for the plants.

    do love Derek Jarman's garden althugh maybe a bit beach-y...
  • pansyfacepansyface Posts: 22,685
    edited October 2022
    It depends on the plants. You could possibly get away with just digging individual holes and planting fairly robust plants into those. Stuff like Santolina would probably be quite happy in the most rubbishy soil.

    Or this

    https://www.bethchatto.co.uk/garden-nursery/gallery/gravel-garden.htm



    Apophthegm -  a big word for a small thought.
    If you live in Derbyshire, as I do.
  • FireFire Posts: 18,019
    edited October 2022
    Might thought is that you might want to take up just a part of the "lawn" first and experiment there - find out what the soil is like. At least the plastic will be keeping the weeds down until you decide on a plan.

    There are some gravel garden resources here that might prove useful.


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 86,869
    Have you been here?

    https://eastrustonoldvicarage.co.uk/gardens/desert-wash 

    it’s on your doorstep (and mine). Have a look at the Desert Wash garden … 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Ecat27Ecat27 Posts: 6
    Have you been here?

    https://eastrustonoldvicarage.co.uk/gardens/desert-wash 

    it’s on your doorstep (and mine). Have a look at the Desert Wash garden … 
    Oh no I haven't, I'm quite new to Norfolk.. I will definitely pay a visit to here  for some inspiration 
    as it's only down the road!  thank you!

    Fire said:
    Might thought is that you might want to take up just a part of the "lawn" first and experiment there - find out what the soil is like. At least the plastic will be keeping the weeds down until you decide on a plan.

    There are some gravel garden resources here that might prove useful.


    Hiya yes I think this is very sensible, i have had a little bit of an exploratory dig with a trowel under one bit but really need to get a shovel to it. I think I'll do that this weekend but will keep the lawn to cover it over again...  as much as i don't like the plastic grass it's defintiely preferable to a load of sand and weed membrane so i will keep it until i am ready to start the project!


    pansyface said:
    It depends on the plants. You could possibly get away with just digging individual holes and planting fairly robust plants into those. Stuff like Santolina would probably be quite happy in the most rubbishy soil.

    Or this

    https://www.bethchatto.co.uk/garden-nursery/gallery/gravel-garden.htm



    Thanks for this - i've just been looking at the beth chatto website - now if i could create something like that I'd be happy!


    Thanks everyone so much for your help.  I'm sure I'll be back to ask for more help as I go along!
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 14,592
    there is nothing complicated about Beth Chatto's dry garden, it is just about ensuring you choose the right plants.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,423
    Beth Chattos book on dry gardens and how she connverted the car park would be  a good help.  Unimproved sand could be used for a lot of  annual wild flowers
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 14,592
    Last weeks GW, showed how successfully you could grow many plants on a beach.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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