Maybe it's time to stop child benefit? Ironically, the Green Party want to INCREASE it.
That's because they realised that the 'green' stance alone wasn't winning them enough votes.
But being related to a woman who has had 10 children, never works, and is living in a large council property with everything paid for by tax-payers - I agree wholeheartedly.
Clay soil - Cheshire/Derbyshire border. I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
You don't see the irony of people having kids then advocating other people shouldn't have kids? Good Lord. That goes for 'two children' Grandfather Attenborough too. Lol, he's part of the problem he campaigns against, it's laughable. Do as I say, not as I do.
No one is saying 'don't have children' ... the message is not to have more than will replace you. I presume that, for some reason, you're unable to comprehend the website ... or perhaps you've not read it
Also, the world was a very different place 50 years ago when I had my children .... our big concerns were nuclear conflict and stopping the Vietnam War ... we were unaware then of the environmental problems we were stacking up for future generations. At least my children grew up with sound environmental principles.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I read very well, the overall message is 'don't increase the population', (but we're allowed to).
From grandfather Dicky himself on there: "All our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people, and harder - and ultimately impossible - to solve with ever more people."
@MikeOxgreen, he is 96, when he had his children, the problem of over population did not exist. You are dissing the bloke that has probably done more than anyone alive to alert us to the damage we are doing to the planet. I have always thought you were rude, but this confirms you are stupid too.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I wasn’t advocating re-wilding urban areas. I was talking about the wrong-headedness of encouraging wild animals into urban areas.
@Dovefromabove and I had crossed wires. I wasn't suggesting you were advocating re-wilding urban areas.
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I think when participants start flinging insults at each other @punkdoc and @MikeOxgreen - it's time to back off and have a cup of tea. It doesn't get anyone anywhere.
It is possible for car owners to discuss the problems with pollution, vegetarians to discuss the down sides of cheese, and for parents to discuss the politics of parenthood. These are big, complex questions, relevant to everyone. We need to listen and bring curiosity to take solutions forward, not throw stones and accusations.
@MikeOxgreen No more so than many others if you look around. Times change as does our knowledge. Over 70 now, I elected not to have children but that was my choice given a vague peek into the future. Over population is certainly a problem now but it was not on the public agenda until relatively recently. Whilst you may choose to limit your family to 2 children, I imagine it becomes difficult to stop your own children deciding otherwise. It goes without saying that a younger generation is necessary to provide sustenance and care for the previous generation. Just the same as in anything we do/use nowadays, some sort of relative scale is necessary. David Attenborough has inspired many people over the years and contributed much to our understanding of the natural world.
It is possible for car owners to discuss the problems with pollution, vegetarians to discuss the down sides of cheese, and for parents to discuss the politics of parenthood. These are big, complex questions, relevant to everyone. We need to listen and bring curiosity to take solutions forward, not throw stones and accusations.
Re cars owners discussing pollution ? It is disheartening in the extreme to see how many motorists ( private and commercial) still insist on keeping their engines running whilst parked. Young and old - both the same. The majority say " Oh I didn't realise it was a problem - sorry " and most then either switch off or move on. However, there are still a few who consider they have a right to sit and text,use their phone, sip their takeaway cups of coffee without a thought to the consequences. If something this basic hasn't yet sunk in, not an awful lot of hope for resolution of our other problems.
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That's because they realised that the 'green' stance alone wasn't winning them enough votes.
But being related to a woman who has had 10 children, never works, and is living in a large council property with everything paid for by tax-payers - I agree wholeheartedly.
I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
That goes for 'two children' Grandfather Attenborough too.
Lol, he's part of the problem he campaigns against, it's laughable. Do as I say, not as I do.
Also, the world was a very different place 50 years ago when I had my children .... our big concerns were nuclear conflict and stopping the Vietnam War ... we were unaware then of the environmental problems we were stacking up for future generations. At least my children grew up with sound environmental principles.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
From grandfather Dicky himself on there: "All our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people, and harder - and ultimately impossible - to solve with ever more people."
He's a total hypocrite.
You are dissing the bloke that has probably done more than anyone alive to alert us to the damage we are doing to the planet.
I have always thought you were rude, but this confirms you are stupid too.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
There is a kind of irony (or even hypocrisy) in there somewhere.
I play with plants and soil and sometimes it's successful
Whilst you may choose to limit your family to 2 children, I imagine it becomes difficult to stop your own children deciding otherwise. It goes without saying that a younger generation is necessary to provide sustenance and care for the previous generation.
Just the same as in anything we do/use nowadays, some sort of relative scale is necessary.
David Attenborough has inspired many people over the years and contributed much to our understanding of the natural world.