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  • B3B3 Posts: 26,954
    Feeding them contraceptives would probably make more sense. Same with squirrels.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 86,864
    edited September 2022
    Just stop feeding them. Simples. 
    Let wildlife establish a balance. Provide the right habitat for the small prey species and the population of predators will balance. That’s the principle of re-wilding. 
    Feeding large wild animals (that aren’t endangered) and encouraging them into areas where there’s not enough natural food for them is counter productive. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,669
    edited September 2022
    Definitely not a new problem,I had a friend I worked with in a nursing home,after my son was born,he's now 45. She lived on a main road in Wallington, I saw her feeding foxes by hand,who were helping themselves from the bins in the back yard. I couldn't believe how unafraid they were.
  • FireFire Posts: 18,019
    edited September 2022

    Do we really think treating a wild population with chemicals in order that the sentimental and misguided can continue to treat wild animals... is really the way to go? Haven’t we done enough damage already?
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    Just stop feeding them. Simples... That’s the principle of re-wilding. 

    I don't think these questions are necessarily simple. In 'wilding' there is always a line. In the UK we live so close, cheek by jowl, that the question is usually how much to intervene, not if. We (sometimes) feed wild birds; we cull squirrels, rats, mice, crows and deer; give contraceptives; vaccinate badgers (because it benefits humans).
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    There are central questions on wilded managed land - when, if and how to treat the animals there - ponies, hogs, animals in labour, end of life etc. Different owners find different answers, and different countries approach these questions differently. "Not feeding animals" is not really the principle of rewilding projects in the UK. It's more complicated than that. There is some responsibility for animals on your property to not suffer. There is an interesting episode of the Knepp podcast that discusses some of these questions. They are not obvious.

    I don't say that foxes should be treated for mange but I don't think it's so cut and dried.


  • Um … you’ve cut and edited my post where I went on to say … 

    ”…Feeding large wild animals (that aren’t endangered) and encouraging them into areas where there’s not enough natural food for them is counter productive…”

    What you’ve done totally alters the meaning of my post. 

    It’s pretty obvious to anyone who reads my whole post that I wasn’t advocating re-wilding urban areas. I was talking about the wrong-headedness of encouraging wild animals into urban areas. 

    😞 

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  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,268
    Until we stop all the intensive building on land where the creatures have always been this will continue.If we build on the only home they have ever known ,where are they supposed to go ……….into gardens and town parks of course ,they don’t just dissolve in the rain .
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 86,864
    edited September 2022
    Do I take it you’re a fellow supporter?    😊 👍 

    https://populationmatters.org/

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  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,268
    I love all animals ,birds and even ugly critters .My motto has always been live and let live ,unless it’s a child killer or animal cruelty case in which case bring back hanging say I .


  • But what about my question? 😊 

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  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,268
    Well , yes I guess I must be 
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