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Crop rotation and timings

I'm relatively new to growing veg.  This year has been quite successful but I'm now trying to plan for winter and next spring.
I currently have 4 raised beds, all created in spring, all were a mix of manure and garden soil and all get sunshine most of the day, beds 3 and 4 probably slightly less in winter.
Bed 1 currently has runner beans
Bed 2 had broad beans in and now has broccoli
Bed 3 had/has sweetcorn and salad leaves and spinach
Bed 4 has courgette and butternut squash 

I'd like to plant garlic, broad beans and spring cabbage (open to other none salad leaf options) to over winter but I'm not sure which beds to put them in and how to tie up the harvest times to that I can plant runner beans, spinach, carrots, parsnips, peas, courgette, sweetcorn and butternut squash in the spring.

I know I probably need to plant the runner beans in a different bed next spring and the broad beans to, but I'm just not sure how to plan where the best place for everything is.  Will carrots and parsnips be ok in a bed that was manured last spring so long as I don't put anymore manure on?  Should I manure some of the other beds before I plant anything else?

Tomorrow is another day


  • I can answer a couple of your questions...
    Runner beans and broad beans don't need, in themselves, to be rotated - lots of people grow runners in the same place year after year. You might, however, want to rotate them if your other crops are better to be rotated into those beds.
    I wouldn't be concerned about putting carrots and parsnips in beds manured last spring - I'd be tempted to add moremanure for the parsnips (others may disagree!).
    You don't have to wait for one crop to be finished before putting in another - you could, for example, put spinach in between other things...
  • purplerallimpurplerallim Posts: 5,108
    I have raised beds too @Dogmum so little room to rotate. I did manure one bed in Autumn and cover over winter ready to plant potatoes. That bed this year grew carrots and beetroot without adding more than a thin layer of compost to sow the seeds in. Have had a good harvest too. Root veg like it mean, the less goodness the better it seems. I moved the strawberries into the bottom of the french beans this year, and they liked the move. They will stay put for another year and then be moved after fruiting next year. I have tubs that I grow spring onions and radishes in, so they are easy to refresh the soil in. Only a few answers,  but I hope it helps.
  • Arthur1Arthur1 Posts: 538
    I use raised beds on both allotments so a ‘proper’ rotation is not possible. There’s loads of info online about the three fold rotation system but you don’t have to follow it.
    some people grow the same crop in the same place for years with no ill effects. As I have done with many crops particularly tomatoes. However it might be sensible to try not to replant the same crop in the same place if possible. There are some basic principles, for instance peas and beans add nitrogen to the soil and leafy crops like nitrogen. 
  • DogmumDogmum Posts: 95
    Thanks, @StephenSouthwest, @purplerallim and @Kate 7 for your comments/thoughts.  I think I'm probably just over thinking it and should concentrate more on what I can grow together to maximise my harvest per bed.

    Tomorrow is another day
  • Brassicas and onions are the main crops to try and rotate due to club root and white onion rot. It's not so easy mind as between them they take over half my area. I'm not a disciple, but Charles Dowding has trials of non rotation and his yields are going up year on year. I'm trying to move stuff around my plot as best I can without worrying too much about it, growing potatoes in tubs and not growing crops that are of limited success means I have more room to work with. Carrots are my bug bear and are much harder for me than parsnips which I find dead easy 
  • Maybe you just haven't found the right variety for your area @Wilderbeast
    Nantes are supposed to be good, but don't do well here, so Speedo are my carrot of choice and are cropping well for the third year ( did have a bit of a problem with the second sowing, but that was down to cats and heat I think)
  • Dogmum said:
    Will carrots and parsnips be ok in a bed that was manured last spring so long as I don't put anymore manure on?  Should I manure some of the other beds before I plant anything else?

    You don't say what was done with the bed you are planning to put them in so it's difficult to answer.
    To the second question, yes. If it really is manure then put it on now, the weather and worms will sort it out ready for growing in next Spring.
    Carrots and parsnips certainly do need tired ground, I remember my first ever crop of those when I didn't know it, loads of roots everywhere.
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