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Does anyone grow Rosa New Dawn?

FireFire Posts: 17,116
edited June 2022 in Garden design
I'd love to see pics and hear your experiences of it - upsides and downsides. How does it seem to you?
Many thanks 


  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 10,319
    I've had one for many years.
    It's not in an ideal position and gets rust and black spot every year.
    Other climbing roses on the same fence perform far better and don't get rust.
    It has no scent and I find the flowers a bit of a dull pink.
    It's ok, but not one I'd buy again

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,158
    I grew it on a north facing wall on our last house, in rural central Belgium and it did very well till we had a -32C frost in January 2009.  Like @Pete.8 I found the flowers pale and wishy washy and the perfume very faint but not much black spot.

    I grew Generous Gardener not far away on a trellis heading north south, vertical to the house wall so it got a bit more sun but had much better flowers and perfume.  I'll grow that again if I come across one here.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 1,396
    edited June 2022
    I had it growing in my old garden; it's a nice small climber which will grow in a semi shaded position.  It grows to around 2.5 M.  It flowers all summer and what I liked about it is that when the flowers fade the petals drop off so no brown and dead blooms hanging on.  The petals fall and it looks like snow on the ground, quite pretty.  Rust and black spot were not problems for me.  I liked it but it is probably an out of fashion flower shape so probably doesn't appeal to current rose fashion.  Would I grow it again? Maybe.  I'm trying to be objective in my report of my experience of this variety.  What would I give it?....probably about 8 out of 10 for looks and performance. But not much good for pollinators, which is what I look for these days. Some flowers even hang on til the first frost.  
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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 21,751
    I love the delicate pink and the flower shape. I had one in my old garden in France but I think it found the summers too hot, it never really flourished. I have one in my Norfolk garden and it is much better. I think it's quite old, planted by a previous owner. Most of its growth is quite high up, seen best from the landing window where it looks beautiful, masses of flowers.
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  • FireFire Posts: 17,116
    Quite mixed reviews. I had read that it had quite a strong frangrance and was good for bees. I do have quite a bit of rust in the garden, so I guess the rose won't do well if it's prone. I like blooms that shatter, so fingers crossed for that. I'm hoping for very pale - going to white.

    @Pete.8  How do find it compares to your Moonlight?

    Thanks for all your thoughts.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 10,319
    It doesn't compare.
    Moonlight sparkles throughout the day, and for much of the year.
    The first flush is coming to an end and it's been great. It's about 12ft up the rowan now.
    The side my neighbour gets is even better...

    By comparison I rarely even notice New Dawn. Individually and close up the flowers are beautiful, but from any distance it just doesn't stand out - for me at least

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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