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Rose sucker query

Hilary_15Hilary_15 Posts: 76
I’m not sure if this is a sucker or a new shoot. It has seven leaves whereas the rest of rose only have five leaves on each stem but it also has a new bud forming. Can suckers produce buds? Can anybody help please?


  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 83,757
    edited June 2022
    Doesn’t look like a sucker to me. Suckers don’t usually have those reddish tones in the leaves. 

    Hopefully @Nollie and/or @Marlorena will be along soon with an authoritative ID. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 13,688
    I agree with you, @Dovefromabove
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,045
    I agree with both of you. @Dovefromabove and @punkdoc
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,145
    Suckers come from below the graft, we can't see the base of the plant

    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,834
    No, not a sucker... perfectly good.   Is that 'Gabriel Oak'.. ?  looks rather like it..
    East Anglia, England
  • Hilary_15Hilary_15 Posts: 76
    Yes it is Gabriel Oak - well spotted!  Good job I didn't snap that off - I've been dithering for a good couple of weeks.  Thanks for the response
  • Hilary_15Hilary_15 Posts: 76
    Can I ask -why has it got 7 leaves when all the other stems have 5?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 7,834
    .. take no notice of the number of leaves, on modern roses it doesn't mean anything..  if you look another time, this rose can have 3, 5 or 7 leaves on a stem..
    East Anglia, England
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