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Hello. Couple of plants to identify. The first is something that I think I planted last year but dug up in one of beds as it was spreading by rhizomes??? As there were shoots popping up everywhere. Anyway when the flower they have gentle pink flowers on tall spikes. My plant identification app call a willowherb but also comes back as "obident plant" that looks more like it. Are these weeds or actually prenials? 

The other one I think must be a weed as it's popped up in the newly planted pond area. I have planted some bulbs in this area and the other beds where this plant is appearing but it doesn't look like a flower. 

Anyway. Photos attached. The images are when i first planted it. And then the area after it's been dug up but where some of the shoots have appeared, and one in the central bed where it's growing.  

Thanksithis weel

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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 14,941
    There are lots of pictures of Willowherbs, which need removing.
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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,299
    If you stick to about 3 at a time, it's easier for us. I agree most of them are willowherb.
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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,454
    Agree about the willowherb. Could the last photo be of creeping buttercup? (That's a guess though).
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,300
    They all look like ‘ weeds’ to me .
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,617
    I would remove the willow herb in 2  and 5 the rest I would leave for now. If there are more weeds it's not as if you have an infestation of them.
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  • B3 said:
    If you stick to about 3 at a time, it's easier for us. I agree most of them are willowherb.
    There are only 2 plants. Just several photos of the same one from different angles. Picture 3 shows the original plant I planted last year (middle to the right of picture next to the Hebe type plant) the others are the stuff that have stemed from that spot
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