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Roses ID and recommendations please

msqingxiaomsqingxiao Posts: 460
Hi all, we plan to plant two bush roses in our front garden, which is clay soil and southwest facing so full sun. We also want to plant a climbing rose in the back garden on a wall that is east-facing but also gets quite a lot of sun in the summer. We want to have roses that are: Fragrant, long-flowering, plenty of flowers, (for the bush rose) can grow quite tall (>1m). 

I saw some of our neighbours' roses (first two are bush roses, 3rd believed to be a climber) that tick all the boxes, but I don't know their variety. If someone can help ID them it would be great.

Also, where would be the recommended places to buy such roses please? Any particular online nursery or local garden centres? And what is a reasonable price to pay for a young plant (not bare root, had the experience of root stock taking over...)?

Thanks!






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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 10,245
    I have Gentle Hermione (David Austin) that looks very similar to the 1st pic. but there are many others that look similar too.
    GH opens pink and fades to almost white over a day or so. It is very fragrant and grows to about 4ft.

    No Idea about the 2nd one

    The 3rd pic is I think a well-known rose - but not so well known that I know :)

    David Austin and Peter Beales are two growers with good reputations.
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 4,210
    I would also love to know the name of the third rose. If it is the one I am thinking of it flowers all summer and well into the Autumn.
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  • JessicaSJessicaS Posts: 764
    edited May 2022
    #1 could be "Desdemona" too, both david Austin, very distinctively an english rose!


    I think 3 is "perennial blue"
    Other good stockists in addition to above; Trevor White roses, Styles Roses, Harkness Roses (also a breeder), jones the rose/ ckjones.
  • msqingxiaomsqingxiao Posts: 460
    Thanks all! I've looked at the recommended online nurseries and still a bit confused by all the different types.... Basically I want ones that have flowers all over the plant (like in the photos I posted), rather than just a few at the top of the branches. Is that called a bush rose or a shrub rose please?
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 11,152
    Those are different names for the same thing, also known as floribundas. You need to look for a repeat flowering shrub/bush rose in a colour you like (which also suits your house colour) which attains the height and spread you need.

    There's a an awful lot of roses to choose from!  Have a look at the main Rose thread if you haven't already done so. Lots of pics and good advice available.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,307
    My guesses would be 'Desdemona', 'Cornelia' and 'Perennial Blue'.

    You want modern shrubs or floribunda roses (large enough) but probably not hybrid teas. Many old roses would work for you too. A lot to choose from.
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