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  • fluviafluvia Posts: 48
    Its 3m tall though and that's the problem. A fence panel or a structure would not cover it.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,353
    Strictly speaking, there are height limits on hedges, and if that's 3 metres, it's too big. It can be a very contentious subject though, if neighbours are challenged on it, and councils get involved etc., and often leads to all sorts of problems. 
    If you're dead set on having a hedge, it would only need to be the 2 metre height if it was in a raised bed, and most of the dead wood next door will then be hidden.
    Whatever you plant, it'll still need to be tolerant enough of drier conditions once established. 
    Beech might be ok. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • fluviafluvia Posts: 48
    May ask neighbours to bring its height down but don't want an argument. But assuming that it says 3m, then I'd like to plant a hedge. I was thinking of planting Griselinia or second option would be Cherry Laurel. Otherwise fence it will be with some climbers. 
  • fluviafluvia Posts: 48
    Sorry back to the original question, if I want to start with new soil then how do I discard old soil?
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,088
    If you've nowhere in the garden to put it you'd need a skip I think. But you could improve what's there by digging in organic matter like well-rotted manure, or if you're going for raised beds you put them on top of what's already there.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,282
    Does anyone know it there are any laws on how high a laylandi hedge should be or is it just a case of whatever height you want? @fluvia Wow you have worked hard.I hope you can achieve something as a result. It will be well deserved.
    Looking forward to my new garden with clay soil here in South Notts.

    Gardening is so exciting I wet my plants. 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 54,353
    2 metres is the usual maximum height for any type of hedge. Basically - two or more shrubs or trees of the same type is considered a hedge. It's not a major problem in more rural areas, but in residential ones, it's only good manners to think about neighbours. Unfortunately, that doesn't always happen, as we often see on the forum.  :/

    As @JennyJ says  that's what we were indicating earlier @fluvia - add the organic matter, whether in a raised bed, or directly on the ground.
    If you still want to remove what's there [not necessary] and you can't distribute it elsewhere in the garden, then yes, you'd need a skip or you'd have to bag it up and take it to a council tip.
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....

    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 29,840
    Don't discard the old soil.  Just improve it by piling on large amounts of well-rotted horse manure - stables or already bagged in good DIY stores.   It'll be a lot easier than barrowing out old dead soil which can be revived and much cheaper than buying in new soil. 

    I would consider putting a fence up against those bare hedge trunks and then planting a mixed border of plants that can cope with initially poor dry soil and that would give you time to improve the soil over the seasons.   You can still planta hedge later if that's what you really want and it will settle in better for waiting to improve the soil.

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw
  • Allotment BoyAllotment Boy Posts: 6,550
    I agree with the earlier post about root control barrier. The sort you can buy to contain bamboo is best but not cheap.  We have laurel at the bottom of our garden, I tend to put pots of bulbs down there,  behind the greenhouse.  I leave the bulbs to die down for next year. If I don't move them for a while the laurel roots invade the pots.
    AB Still learning

  • fluviafluvia Posts: 48
    I didn't want to risk planting £1300 -1500 worth of new hedging plants in bad soil. Was doubtful whether mixing in good compost will be enough but you've given me confidence that its possible so thank you.

    Hedge was chosen over a wooden fence in case the neighbours don't cut theirs down then I could grow my new hedge to match theirs in height.
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