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Should I prune this new climbing rose?



  • AthelasAthelas Posts: 910
    edited April 2022
    It looks like a great rose!

    This figure might help to visualise what @Marlorena was saying about how to train it to encourage more flowers to form uniformly up and down the plant. Basically when a stem is horizontal or close to horizontal, more buds will ‘break’ out on it — something about slowing down the sap which I guess keeps the nutrients/growth hormones from simply rushing up and collecting all at the top (?)

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    Cambridgeshire, UK
  • CraighBCraighB Posts: 752
    @Marlorena As the rose will be above head height I don't actually mind the roses nodding downwards. But that sulphate of potash tip is very handy to know as I do have a hybrid tea and the roses on it are enormous! So I might be able to use this method on this particular rose.

    I love everything you have said and it sounds like this rose is going to be perfect! However you mentioned that you had seen the laterals grow up to 5-6 feet.... Does this mean the rose stems that will hold the rose? Because I'm not sure I would like the roses dangling 5-6 feet away from the house!  :o I would prefer them to be a close to the wall as possible.

  • CraighBCraighB Posts: 752
    @Athelas Thanks for that diagram. That's exactly how I'm going to have to train the rose because it will be planted in between my front door and the bay window so there is brick wall inbetween this of around 60cm wide. This is where I will try to grow the canes in a zigzag to give me some roses here and then it reaches the top of the window and door I will then grow it completely horizontal over both of these :)
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,265
    @CraighB Thank you so much for this thread. We had a 4ft tall wall in our garden when I was a child. There were about a dozen roses growing along it all from Woolworths. I remember R Ena Harkness was in the middle. 
    All the other roses were pale colours.Then there was 'Ena' soft, silky, rich red, slightly curled petals. As a child I loved to sniff it's rich perfume. Truly unique. The old petals were great mixed with water in a jam jar. Thank you all. 
    Looking forward to my new garden with clay soil here in South Notts.

    Gardening is so exciting I wet my plants. 
  • CraighBCraighB Posts: 752
    @GardenerSuze No problem :) The thread really started because of my impatience and my lack of being to take a risk! The problem with me usually is before I buy something I research it to death to make sure it's perfect for what I need it for... However I am trying to be a bit more spontaneous and when I saw this rose I thought what if this... What if that... In the end I thought what the hell just buy it! And then of course when I read it might only grow up to 1 meter, I didn't want to just plant it and then wait and see what happens... Because I'm way way to impatient! :)

    So after starting this thread I'm really pleased I purchased Ena because it sounds like everybody loves it and has fond memories of it from the past. And I hope I get the same enjoyment from it  :) 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,422
    ..nicely done @Athelas

    .. Craig, here is an example in my garden of a red climbing hybrid tea rose showing a lateral shoot. Other shoots are much shorter.  On this particular variety the longest laterals do not grow more than 3 feet, and grow straight up,  but I've seen them double this length on Ena H rose.  The thing is, my rose is open to the elements, there is no wall behind it.  Roses grow towards the sun, so where you will have a wall behind the lateral growth, the stems will automatically try to reach outwards, where the sun shines, and that's not going to be hard against your wall.

    If you have support to attach the laterals too,  you can keep the longest ones against the wall, but otherwise I think you'll find they will tend outwards away from the wall, even if it's south facing,  because they want to flower in the sun, and with the weight of the flowers, which will be at the top or end of the canes, will cascade somewhat..
    It's not unattractive, but depends on the beholder. 
    Mine here sometimes try to go over the fence as it's where the sun rises..

    ...don't worry about it.. just have fun with your rose, it'll keep you busy and you'll learn too manage it as you go..
    East Anglia, England
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