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Can anybody tell me what this tree is?  It's right next to another, older tree & I'm considering moving it before it's too late to do anything
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  • It’s a Hawthorn  :)

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  • Really?  I thought the tree next to it, was a hawthorn, or was it hornbeam?  I need to get a photo of that on here too.  Do you think I'll be OK to move it now, as the trunk is still very thin, though it's possibly 7 foot tall?  Thanks. 
  • I wouldn’t know about moving it but it’s definitely a hawthorn. 

    Hornbeam have oval leave with deep lines/veins in them. 
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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,611
    I wouldn't move anything at present unless you have had rain. 
     Retired Gardener, new build garden, clay soil, South Notts.


    The more I garden the less I know but the more pleasure I get from it. Monty Don 
  • Thx Sherwood. 

    @Suze. Is that because it's easier to release the roots from wet soil?  The tree is so close to the other tree, that it looks like it's part of the other tree, so I'm not sure it's a gr8 idea to have both together, so I may well risk moving it.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,611
    @paulpuk2000 When it has rained the hawthorn will have taken up alot of moisture and will cope better with new surroundings. You could water really well before moving but never quite the same. Hawthorn is tough if you do move it water really well one day and move the next. Yes if the soil is wetter it will be easier to move and get all the root.

    Dig the hole and water the bottom of the hole. Plant but do not surface water. 
    Then keep watered until established with a can  give it a soak once a week. Do be aware we could be going into a drought situation with these drying winds. Is it ok to do a rain dance on this forum?
     Retired Gardener, new build garden, clay soil, South Notts.


    The more I garden the less I know but the more pleasure I get from it. Monty Don 
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,611
    @paulpuk2000 When it has rained the hawthorn will have taken up alot of moisture and will cope better with new surroundings. You could water really well before moving but never quite the same. Hawthorn is tough if you do move it water really well one day and move the next. Yes if the soil is wetter it will be easier to move and get all the root.

    Dig the hole and water the bottom of the hole. Plant but do not surface water. 
    Then keep watered until established with a can  give it a soak once a week. Do be aware we could be going into a drought situation with these drying winds. Is it ok to do a rain dance on this forum?
     Retired Gardener, new build garden, clay soil, South Notts.


    The more I garden the less I know but the more pleasure I get from it. Monty Don 
  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,535
    It was probably planted by a bird. I find them all over my garden :)
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,007
    The reason not to move it now is because most plants, but especially trees and shrubs, are best moved in autumn when they have gone dormant and the soil is still warm enough and moist enough for roots to re-establish.  They then have all winter to get themselves settled before they have to go into production of sap for the spring burst.

    If you move it now you need to make sure you moisten the soil thoroughly and take as big a root ball as possible and then keep it watered all thru this growing season till the autumn rains come.  It'll need staking too till its roots take hold again.

    Hawthorn trees can get very large.  Do you have room for 2 in your garden?

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  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,611
    The comments made by @Obelixx are right. Think  you will need to devote alot of time caring for it until the autumn. 
     Retired Gardener, new build garden, clay soil, South Notts.


    The more I garden the less I know but the more pleasure I get from it. Monty Don 
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