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Does this need dividing

I bought two Polemonium ‘lambrook mauve’ last year as 1ltr plants. One has formed a nice mound whereas the other one is double the size of the other plant and is rather bare in the centre. 

Does this need splitting? If so, should I do it now or in the autumn (it is almost in flower right now)?

 Many thanks. 


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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 52,085
    Probably better to wait, although I often divide and move stuff when it suits me, rather than when the 'ideal' time is meant to be, even plants in flower. 

    Polemoniums are pretty tough, so if you feel like chancing it, you can go ahead. If you don't feel lucky, then wait until after it's flowered  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • WildlifeloverWildlifelover Posts: 380
    edited April 2022
    Ok, thanks. I’ll probably wait until the autumn then. When dividing it, do I cut it back, dig it up, cut off the more lush side growth and replant those bits?
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 52,085
    Just divide and replant. Cut back a little if there's still a lot of growth at the time. It'll probably make two decent plants if the root system's good. No need to cut anything off, although bits will be damaged and they'll just die back themselves. You can just remove anything that dies off, and then let it get on with it    :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Apologies if this is a daft novice question but I thought you had to discard the centre part and replant the outer parts?
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 52,085
    With most perennials, that isn't the case. Plants that grow in a circular pattern, where the centre gradually dies back  would need that - like Irises, but not things like Polemonium. The whole plant is viable   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,158
    This is one that I divide after flowering, it seems to cope OK with that. and yes, keep the best bits and chuck the bald centre if there is one



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Fairygirl said:
    With most perennials, that isn't the case. Plants that grow in a circular pattern, where the centre gradually dies back  would need that - like Irises, but not things like Polemonium. The whole plant is viable   :)
    Ah, ok thanks. How come the centre part of my plant has become relatively bare compared to the outer parts? 
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 52,085
    I find that interesting, especially with @nutcutlet's post too. I've never had that with Polemoniums  :)
    If there's any dead stuff, then certainly don't plant that. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,158
    Fairygirl said:
    I find that interesting, especially with @nutcutlet's post too. I've never had that with Polemoniums  :)
    If there's any dead stuff, then certainly don't plant that. 
    Lambrooke Mauve isn't like caeruleum etc. It's a sterile hybrid and has a different growth pattern, more like other hardy perennials that spread and die out in the middle.


    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Thanks both, all useful info for a novice like me! Any tips on how to go about splitting it as it’s something I’ve not done before.
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